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Ok rolf so i have a few questions for you. You say the servers for the online version will stay up until they are virtually dead. Lets calm everyone fears including mine and describe what virtually dead is in your book? We talking less then 40 players, less then 30 players less then 20 players what is virtually dead mean to you? No players? You said for a long time what is considered a long time to you? Days, Weeks, months, years? Everyone has a valued stake and an invested interest in the online version and the servers in which they play on so describe to everyone what you mean by your statement please. Also sense your being openly honest with the community, please tell us all how long wurm unlimited been in the works. Was it before the release of bridges? Before the release of Xanadu? Before the raise in prices for the online version? How long have you and your team been in development of the newer version? Should be no harm in letting everyone know. Last question, now that you released the Steam version will you come back to the online version and fix the bugs, all the bugs and repair the in game economy? The ingame economy was already hurting before your big announcement of Wurm Unlimited but now it is for sure hurting far worse so what plans if any is there to fix the online ingame economy?

You offering to sell 100 gold coin for 10 Canadian? Im not selling coin im buying coin.

I have tried to warn you all that this new release will destroy the game. You players dictate the ingame economy not me, one disgruntled player does not dictate the wurm ingame ecopnomy. Im disgruntled because the game was taken away from the direction the majority of us enjoyed and has become privatized for monetary purposes to a sole individual for a fast cash grab by the release of this newer version. People looking to blame some one don't use me as your escape goat. It was not i who decided to withhold the release of information of a newer version of the game which has resulted in people fleeing the game at a time that the game couldn't afford any more hits to it's economy or a drop in player base. I warned and warned against it, It was i who first mentioned the servers going down and rolf responding on steam and online forum by saying he promised they would not UNLESS they was virtually dead. Am i to blame for that as well? Because mark my words when those who decide to leave the game to try wurm unlimited and never return the player count for the online game version the player count will drop dramatically. I don't get some of your peoples complaints about my ridiculous advertisement to buy coin at such a cheap price. #1 it's a open and free market and there no rule against me setting the price in which i want to pay for the coin i purchase from others. It's up to you the individual to decide if you want to sell it for that price. If your plaguing my post with negatives of which i have not reported then in fact your trolling my merchant ad. That is against the game rules look it up! Few months back majority of you complained about niki prices on her items again its a free market people can sell and buy what ever they want for what ever price they want if a select few of you don't like it to bad! #2 I am not hurting the market by my advertisement in fact im bolstering it and helping all of you. Im sorry if some you disagree and don't see it that way but if your selling your coin at 70, or 80, or 90 euros for a gold coin/ 100 silver then it's because you see for yourself no one is buying coin! It's supply and demand. There no demand for it! Why would anyone want to buy a bunch of coin if they don't plan to be on and be actively playing the online version in less then a month. Follow the postings on the forum under Wurm Unlimited see for your self how many has said they will let there premium time run out or that they was leaving the game. Then you ask yourself how many of those people have multiple accounts. They all will be leaving. #3 You shouldn't be offended by my merchant ad. If your one of the ones buying up tools, weapons and items from people leaving the game in the hopes to to flip in the future for a profit if the game ever makes a turn around for the better then your no better then i am. If your a hardliner in the game who profited from the sale of drake and drake sets and dragon eggs in the past, then you have no room to talk and those of you out there know exactly who you are! No, no don't blame me for the game down fall nor those like me who pointed out that rolf move for wurm unlimited was a bad move! My merchant ad stays where it's at. Don't troll my add. You don't like my price move on. I will buy at the prices i listed above and ill pay no more then i advertised. If i get a bunch of coin because of it ill come back into the game play on xanadu and retire on that server which is surely to be around long after the other servers are taken down one by one. They will be mark my words! If Wurm Unlimited a success the player activity on the online version will diminish, it's common sense!

Ok so out of pure curiosity i decided to go check out the cost of servers for the wurm unlimited release. The servers i looked at to be able to accommodate whats needed was priced in the $100.00 month range. I guess no big deal if you spend on average $100 to $400 a month playing wurm. But i don't see how that economically viable for the occasional player. So far i see listed 4 Servers that state they will be up and held by private interests. Correct me if im wrong and if you know of cheaper servers by all means reply even if im not interested it may help those that are especially sense i seen no where on the posting of Wurm Unlimited on steam as to where you could go to obtain a server that would accommodate the game needs.

I have one individual interested in selling me silver at the price i listed. I said id update this as it goes.

No this post is what it is i am truly willing to buy silver at the exact prices i listed. Others are paying more for it and that's there choice its a free market! If there is a time in which i get flooded with offers from those that want to sell out at the price im offering perhaps others should be concerned over that currently i have purchased ZERO and at any time anyone can ask me how much i have purchased at that rate ill give an honest answer. Maybe its a form of checks and balance. Same time anyone foolish enough to sell to me at that price i stand to gain so its a win/win.

Truth is Kamal did that number on cele and if i came back as a new player you have no idea it was me. Anyone could do it my friend. Don't be so fast to judge it was not i who destroyed the moral principles in wurm. The hardliners and those that stood to gain the most did just ask yourself why your not a CA anymore? This should give you reason enough to understand my position on the matter. There was a time when wurm was much better then what it has become now. In any case your missing the point, do you have silver to sell me Arch?

Arch you can hate what i say and do but ill always think positive of you, You know as well as i do this all was the wrong direction for the game to go through!

It's Devaluation of the wurm dollar lmao

My credibility has always been sound those that have known me and known what i have paid through this course of the game know that to be a fact! Now would you like to sell some silver to me?

You hardliners are doing exactly what i expected you would do good job keep the good work up! BTW while your attacking my insane thread im seeing other peeps willing to buy at way low prices then normal so maybe my post did help some, hmmmm? At the very least it started a price war on who got the better deal on silver and gold you guys can thank me later.

Nope im offering to buy coin no rule against what i set my price no rule against me offering to buy it and if a rule broken it be you that's trolling my thread. So please keep it business. Sell or don't sell but leave your comments out my thread.

BTW im serious about what im offering its hassle free as long your pay pal verified.

It will change in the finale days trust me it will change. Soon as people try Wurm Unlimited make there choice on what they are doing and the population dwindles servers wide people will look for an exit but im banking on the twist that rolf might be correct so why not buy up silver low and later sell at the high when he gets his flux of endless players to the online version. Maybe there some good from my madness if you all think about it.

Hey i did quit doesn't mean i can't buy and sell using the forum Btw I see a new thread on steam where someone said rolf couldn't guarantee the servers for online version would stay up that's posted on the steam news feed for the game. But im betting Xanadu will be up no matter what and im betting in the end alot people will try and sell out of silver and gold for what ever they can take in the final days so my add will stay up and ill try and run with this and see if i can make a buck or two.After all if rolf can profit from the destruction of the game why cant we all.

Remove this thread please. Offer has expired.

I assume its not sold?

no i sold out many time lol. Take care Arch

After reading this week Rolf announcement of Wurm Unlimited we have decided to leave the game for good and this will be the last post i post on the forum. Rolf and Staff you have really screwed the game up for the worse and i hope your happy with that decisions you have made, I talked for a few hours with piper we both came to the decision that we will not spend the money to buy wurm unlimited for we do not support Rolf crazy venture in destroying the wurm online game by the release of his new version which surely in our opinion is taking away from the online community. What i plan to do is go give notch some of our money and go try mine craft sense basically wurm has now become mine craft! Lot's of mods for mine craft. both kids love it and its cheaper! I can host a server for $1.00 for 5 people. So Rolf have fun with your huge mistake. Trust me people after playing for almost 4 years i have seen this game fall further and further in the toilette. The staff and rolf made a huge mistake in not talking it over with all of you the player base first before he ran off just decided on his own this was what was best for the game. Kinda like he did with Xanadu recall how great that was? I have made many friends and many enemies within the game but i always kept to my word on what i said i was going to do. Im giving my word i won't be back unless the game restored to its former glory. I will not feed the mistake rolf is making. He screwed up royally in the release of this Wurm Unlimited at a time when the ingame economy couldn't be worse and the real world economy not much better. At a time when so many people left to play so many other games. I don't know Rolf what you was thinking but i say to you this decision is as bad as your decision not to run with notch on mine craft! You had something special and unique now you have a huge mess. It was fun gang while it lasted. To many of you that are our friends. Many blessings to you. Have fun and enjoy life. I wish you the best of health. I wish you all within the game the best. To Enki i think you tried to be a fair and honest GM and i respected you very much! To harvest, rudie, erato, bean,eroc,dedri,so many others to list-guys its been alot of fun. People be a little nicer to rolandt he not that bad of a guy. I enjoyed my time with him on chaos. Friend you can reach piper on her other resources of communication. Only way id be back is if Rolf disbands his idea of release of Wurm Unlimited which i and many others feel would destroy the game rather then helping it. I doubt he will listen to me and others he made his choice and put his back to the wall with it as he has always done, you think when he sees his marketing skills are weak he learn but hey who am i to preach he made a game i couldn't make over all it was fun from the time i played. It's a bad and horrible mistake though rolf not to listen to your game community when many of them know better then you do. But im not with out warmth. I hope im wrong on everything i have said for i do love the community and the game, i hope it's a success for you guys and in the end i hope the player base is blessed with many new players and has huge increase in ingame economy benefits. i just can't ride the roller coaster any longer. To many changes and not enough stability for my like in a online game. As i depart for new adventures in other games, I hope you all will play nice with one another remember the GM staff are volunteers give them the respect they deserve and cut them some slack. Treat new players with warmth and kindness and help them learn the game, not everyone that starts new is Kamal so please try and remember new players deserve some learning time and coaching before you bash them to hard within the game. Try and let people speak more to get there points across on the forum thats what the forum is for. Not everyone is perfect so for the know it alls try and remember that. To Shrimpii leave my fair well speech up for a while before you remove it. Thanks. Its been fun people. "Look i can see the tip of red mountain, we now can settle piper-piperrr (1:00AM) Ill wake her tomorrow tell her i found a place" High light of my game time experience.

I dont see how you all think it will allow the online version to survive. It's the same hype that Xanadu had look how that turned out! I hope you all are right i really do i hope its a huge success and thousands come flocking to wurm online. I hope it restores the in game economy to its glory days. But what if it don't, what if it turns for the worse then what?

We will not shut down any Online servers unless unless they're virtually dead for a long period of time, so there's nothing for existing players to worry about! IN YOUR WORDS STAFF! The statement above is a joke! What do they think will happen when the community of curious players leave to play Wurm Unlimited and decide that o, gee this is much better because we don't have to pay for monthly memberships. We can just buy it one time and have it forever and better yet we can host our own server and play with our nitch of friends and abide by our own set of rules, so much better then we don't have to worry about grieving, cheaters, hackers, banned players returning oh not to mention the bugs will be less because its promoted on steam. Meaning he has to address them or his rating will fall on steam. They are trying to sell a line BS to all of you and i wasn't born yesterday! Don't you all recall Xanadu? Don't all of you recall what that server was intended for? It was meant for drawing in new players, where are all these new players that server was promised to deliver. Don't you all recall having to membership with a new toon before you could play it when it was released? Now anyone can go there. Im sorry i don't believe a word of what you staff people are telling us about this new release. You kept this hidden from all of us which is dishonesty in itself. I truly hope the game is destroyed over your selfish acts to money grab using a trend such as steam to market wurm unlimited over your successful online game, to me it's an act of greed. You people who stay on these servers past the release date of this version of the game, Don't cry when those servers are eventually taken down one by one because the player numbers slip so drastically its no longer economically viable to keep them going. Or better yet he decides to raise the membership fees again claiming he needed to do something to keep it all going! Matrk my words this is the end of wurm as we all knew it! So here another question out of all new toons made to play on xanadu when it was first released because that was what was required how many are still being played now? How many are kept premium-ed up! It was nothing more then a big waste of money. But i say it was planned because as they planned Xanadu guess what im betting Wurm Unlimited was on the drawing board and why, because its a big enough server to host all of us freedom players playing the online game. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to sort that one out.

You and i have played a great game together Kegan over the last year or two but you know as i do that this new Wurm Unlimited will deprive the downed market on the online version greatly. If people can't market what they make then in truth the game becomes nothing more then another version of mine craft.

To Rolf, I see you started this thread so im challenging you on your decision to release this this new version. It's a huge mistake on your part! You have destroyed your online MMO game but i have the feeling you and your dev team knew this would happen a year ago when you guys was in the works of this new Wurm Unlimited. The game is yours of course but you didn't care about those who supported you all this time now did you? THE PLAYERS is what should have mattered! It was a huge mistake. Thinking back on it now this is why your GMs have been relaxed on the rule violations and game changes ect ect. They knew as you knew that this would be the end of the online version. I read somewhere you said that the online servers will not go down for the online version. Do you own these servers? Are you leasing them? Because everything has a cost so tell us how do you plan to maintain the cost to run the multiple servers you have for the online game when in fact the player base will sharply decline and may stay declined once Wurm Unlimited release in full action. I feel your gonna be forced to choose on raising the price of membership again or cut servers out! How you going to maintain it? When are you and your team going to come back and put the time in to fix all the many bugs that the online version still has? What about the banned players, cheaters that plague the online version when will you and your team finally come up with a security measure that protects against the players who have been banned 50 times and find a way to come back anyways! I think its great your releasing the game as a buy out option on steam where we will have smaller full version of the game. I hope it is a none subscription format. One time fee appeals to me and many others who plan to leave will buy it one time fee and never have to worry about being plagued with change again or an increase to subscription fees on a dishonest pretense to enhance the game! However its going to hurt your over all online game and you can't deny that! Really you can;'t deny you kept all this in the dark because you was afraid of peoples reactions just like your seeing now. Many are really upset with you for this myself included and heck im not even playing anymore i sold my stuff out over two months ago but im still upset because i was fan of the online game. Im upset for all the people who are stuck with toons they worked for years and investments they made. Now with your release of a new version of the game. You just took from all these people what they worked so hard to build up, you destroyed there worth, the value of those toons and players labor. The ingame economy was dead and is now for sure dead on your online version, this release has now for sure destroyed the game. How you going to save it? How will you get people to trust you again? You kept it a secret from the player base about this new version. You may not have lied but you surely deceived us all when you said the reason you was raising the subscription prices was to enhance the game you never said it was to develop an entirely new version of the game. For that reason alone many will not forget this and are upset with you! All you did was make a new copy of wurm stuck it on a trending market aka Steam and hoping to grab cash not to mention you degraded wurm and made it for sure more like mine craft! By the way what kind of legality issues you going to have with Mine Craft, because if it becomes very similar to mine craft i would think you would have some legal issues there sooner or later. What set wurm apart from mine craft was there was no creative mode! The fact there was a real viable economy. A sense of real ownership! You took that all away with your new and cheaper version of wurm with a creative mode. This is a huge mistake rolf. You should have release a demo version of the game at a much smaller scale on steam to ride out the trend and to market your online version. Not a complete game itself. I employ you to change it, back out your deal or arrangements to release this wurm unlimited and change it to a demo for marketing purposes. If you do this, if you release wurm unlimited. You have killed your own online game. People will flock off of it unlike you seen and the game will be damaged to a point it won't be reversible. Don't make the same stupid mistakes that the designer of playtechtonics made with star-port. That game is now worthless to play and wurm will become just like that if you do this. He like you decided that his game was not worth saving because of all the exploits and for years he been in development of anew version in the hopes to revitalize the game. His game fallen so far down hill that he has a hard time even selling tokens the equivalent of you silver and gold ingame currency. His game full of cheaters and hackers and those that would exploit the game. Your time, your team time should have been 100% invested in the online version not a new version of the game. I feel let down as a player. i feel you let us all down and for what? Money? New Game? What was your reason for this? Marketing? Marketing can be done a thousand if not ten thousand different ways without the need to abandon the original project to release a newer version. It's my opinion love it or hate it a lot what i said is the truth and your making a huge mistake in this release of wurm unlimited!