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Bump to fixing the Traders once and for all before Xanadu is opened.

Unless they limit players like they do with the token bit from draining all the coin at once. You could use the same system of limits to people draining an amount per day and overall. Sure it would be easier if you had more players, but it would end complete draining all at once by one player. If you used this type of thing with some of the other things mentioned you could end the Trader System as we now know it and actually make one that give more players coin.

The problem is most of the time its coin that has already been bought that uis used to soak the new players spending real cash into the games funds. So its a cycle that encourages more and more traders for those who are greedy enough at no RL cost at all. The RL money is pulled from the newer players and those the spend RL on the game without giving anything at all back to them through their deeds upkeep and other things they pay for at the Traders. The whole Trader exploit might hurt some players when fixed but in the long run it will be better for the game if they are fixed and that coin put to better use for all the players not just those who choose to exploit this system.

if anything a lot of player have traders who are moving there and those traders will help fund their deeds on Xanadu. I would not be hopeful that many people will disband and remove deeds.

It says you can make a deed it does not say you can trade a deed. Just watch when you do try to trade a deed from a non prem to any other players. I would be willing to bet you need to prem up to make this type of trade. the object of allowing non prems to deed is to give them more reasons to go premium as they invest more into the game and eventually need better skills it is not so old players can exploit the system even though I am sure they will do their best to do exactly that.

Trader payouts should also be tied to Deed Size and upkeep paid monthly. Matter of fact make it so only people who have Traders pay into the kings upkeep used for Traders and then use the other upkeep from non Trader Deeds to make other ways in the game for players to gain coin from the king. Small Trader deed would get far less payout than a Large Trader deed who pays in more upkeep. Using that with the Idea of how much stuff the Trader sells and How many people use the trader would definitely stop the 1s trader deeds fro being planted all over the server wasting land. Heck you could even have Trader Contracts have a Maximum payout in its life time to stop players from planting mutliples and using the game forever. The one thing I never Liked was the Fact other peoples Deed Upkeep being used to keep Trader Deeds alive and running while they profit endlessly from it. If there was some way to remove this bonus from other players Deeds who do not have traders that would help as well. Also how about getting rid of the kick back for buying Trader from Traders once and for all??? They do not cost 50s, but actually like 38s and the rest get put back so they can drain it. remove the kickback completely. Another thing people do is use just one type of item to drain and feed Traders you could base it on all the items in the game and the amount of items those traders get as to how the pay out system works. Trader is in a locked area??? no payout....locked house?? no payout......Or make them not usable in a house period. Develop other ways to enhance the game with the Kings Payout instead of Traders......that all players can do that compete with the funds given out and end this private funds given to Traders. There are many ways to end the trader deed exploit you just have to take a step to do it and make a commitment.

Quit Wurm....yeah ok. Anyhow who are you are why should I care? Oh and when you have 5 years wrapped up into this game it takes awhile to unwind it all . I'll be here for while getting rid of stuff and managing my 8 or so properties

I guess they need to be playing the PvP they say they so desperately need. why the hell would they need to go to xanadu anyways no PvP there.

Trader payouts should also be tied to Deed Size and upkeep paid monthly. Matter of fact make it so only people who have Traders pay into the kings upkeep used for Traders and then use the other upkeep from non Trader Deeds to make other ways in the game for players to gain coin from the king. Small Trader deed would get far less payout than a Large Trader deed who pays in more upkeep. Using that with the Idea of how much stuff the Trader sells and How many people use the trader would definitely stop the 1s trader deeds fro being planted all over the server wasting land. Heck you could even have Trader Contracts have a Maximum payout in its life time to stop players from planting mutliples and using the game forever. The one thing I never Liked was the Fact other peoples Deed Upkeep being used to keep Trader Deeds alive and running while they profit endlessly from it. If there was some way to remove this bonus from other players Deeds who do not have traders that would help as well. Also how about getting rid of the kick back for buying Trader from Traders once and for all??? They do not cost 50s, but actually like 38s and the rest get put back so they can drain it. remove the kickback completely. Another thing people do is use just one type of item to drain and feed Traders you could base it on all the items in the game and the amount of items those traders get as to how the pay out system works. Trader is in a locked area??? no payout....locked house?? no payout......Or make them not usable in a house period. Develop other ways to enhance the game with the Kings Payout instead of Traders......that all players can do that compete with the funds given out and end this private funds given to Traders. There are many ways to end the trader deed exploit you just have to take a step to do it and make a commitment.

Traders are working fine atm...

Well I hope so because its been a long time like this and should have been addressed by now. Matter of fact Mayors should be able to remove any lock on their deed as we now have tons of these locked up without permission. At least Bsb/Fsb/etc. things that hold their items.

This......and I said something about this a long time ago as well as others after me in suggestions it shows they do not listen sometimes.

...had to prem to guys to trade a deed......i guess once prem'd you are screwed.

Ok I am moving the rest of the Silver over to Pristine atm. and will hold the coin for you when we can meet up later. Pro.

I will be selling 1 Gold Coin for 100 EU. I can move the coin to Indy or Pristine ( 30s in on Indy, 70s is on Pristine ) I will move the coin around which ever way it works. If you are interested please pm on the forums I will get back later today. Paypal Only. Thx, Pro. SOLD

I think its still going to be fun and a great game having smaller private servers first and a bigger server added later. The small servers will have enough room for 64 players and who ever makes the server will have full control, and be able to configure things as you wish and invite whom you want. So yeah Lif has a New Direction to start and now the players will control what happens in each of their servers so no forced PvP if you do not want it and you will only have players you want there.

Getting cheaper I see interesting....You could thank us for paying through the nose for land and supporting the beta.

Problem is it ends up being a suck up contest as to who they pick so unless something changed I don't see things being any different than last time.

You need to subtract water and steep mountains, etc from usable land as there will be a lot of land simply not really worth deeding. If you get 70% of the Server that is decent for deeding with a little work you'll be doing ok.

I think it will end up just like the last one..... A Complete Joke.

Remember that if he does not announce changes to Traders they will pay out a HUGE amount of coin early on during the Life of the Server as players come in and buy things from the towns Traders and make Deeds. Also all of the Traders in the Main Towns will have a very large sum of Coin early on from all the Purchases that Happen during the Initial Rush onto a New Server. Of Course Rolf "could" change something, but I have never seen him change anything to do with Traders Yet. To give an example when Pristine opened there was endless amounts of silvers to be had from the Traders in Blossom. I decided after I found Silver Ore a few days into Pristine to go all out on Jewelry Smithing and gained well over 3 Gold from those Traders in a few days. If you buy one Trader you can buy additional Traders for less than 40s from that one. Also Land costs appear to be even cheaper now and you can make a Larger Deed for less coin. Most Traders level out to earning around 6-8s a month over time, But the initial months can bring 40, 50, or more silver to each Trader as the players flood into the Server purchasing Settlement Forms, Merchant Contracts, and among other things Trader Contracts as well. Just Beware and be Prepared as a Very Nice opportunity will occur for much coin for a few months after this Server Launches. Anyhow have fun! o/

Hit em where it hurts

Some one else better take this deal on if you want to keep up with the postings because I aint gonna be here to do this anymore. Good Luck with your Traders and the future updates.

I can agree that there should be a way, but the way should have been fixed a long long time ago so players would not be planning deeds around something they were informed the opposite. Its to bad how things went down though as it could have been handled better and not have caused this issue in the first place.

So how was the overall gameplay during the time you did get to play?