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But that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that this system is a bit outdated and pointless. I have yet to see one good reason being brought forward for this system to be in place... and spare me the health one - 12h of rested time is way to much... if you wanted for this to be a health reason then we should not have more than 2-3h per RL day which effenctively could have us sit 3-5h at our PCs which is already way to long from a health point of view. Now to touch upon your (thats how I assume you meant it to be) "Wurm is meant to be slow" reasoning, why do we have sleep powder then that can be bought left and right either by buying more prem time or from other players? It doubles skill gain to speed things up significantly (meant to be slow, unless you buy yourself free from those shackles... mh?). Which leads me back to Aegis55 suggestion of having a equivalent of Sleep Powder in the form of Rested Powder or so that fills up your fatigue timer. Essentialy its the same, one powder gives you double skill gain in a given timeframe - the other powder just extends the timeframe at normal skillgain. Now, I get the systems go a bit further than that looking at the Vynoras Wisdom spell and some other aspects, but its not about small details now - those can always been taken care of in some other way. No matter how you logically twist this topic, there is absolutely no good reason for this system to be in place. And no - it wont prevent botting either, as I said already once - when I hit the fatigure cap 2 days in a row due surfacemining like crazy and a question window poped up - THAT is anti botting, because I couldn't do anything until I gave that box a answer. I am not sure if thats a automated process or a GM had their fun with me after I complained a bit on IRC about that fatigue stuff hampering my surfacemining (but who would bot surfacemining and possibly ruin the landscape?). There is only one good point against it - we pay a subscription fee here and to artifically limit the time we can play is kind of... not ok. Any game you pay a sub, you can do whatever you want with your time. We are grown ups... we do not need a big brother watching our every move... thats only a thing in China. (I am not affected so I could care less, but I just don't like to see how a dedicated player that enjoys the game is being reduced to be a minority that no one needs to cater to - we have a small player base as is, no need to alienate people by being unflexible or walling any possible discussion they bring up - specially when they have a valid point, in my opinion anyhow.)

Always found it odd that blue dye is so insane to get made. red - cochinaels are easy to come by and everyone skills butchering green - just mine it, easy white - just mine it, easy black - we can harvest acorns now but....blue - You have to scramble around botanising for ages, rarely getting woad, getting lots of random other junk and the chance its good QL is reaallllly slim. Couldn't we allow Woad to be put in planters and use similar code to herbs? Edit for important information - You can no longer botanise high QL woad without the skill. It is literally capped with your skill since 1.3. If you ever want to be able to make 90QL blue dye you need to find a person with 90+ botanising. Does anyone in the whole game have that!? Feb 9th Edit - Today the devs decided that Forestry, Milking and Botanising being actually slightly reasonable to grind for the first time in 10 years needed nerfing, so now it's even harder to get woad.

Today I landed on Chaos in Talor's local. He had to face 4 challenges! #1 - Did he have a rope tool in inventory? Nope. Right off the bat the Gold Dragon egg had to go back into the void. Shame too, I am told that once raised, it would come to your aid anywhere at anytime of you calling on any server! Not only will it fight along side you, but it can heal, and teleport you. Oh well, it will never even get hatched now... poor dragon. #2 Get 25 sand within 4 minutes. He was able to succeed with only 35 seconds left on the clock! Unfortunately his digging angered a nearby troll and they got into a heated argument about the hole he dug. Talk about road rage.... #3 How many real world hours are in an average Wurm Online day. His answer was correct! #4 He had to defend his personal style from the fashion police! They descended on him with needles and scissors and thread so absolutely filled with disgust at his choice of helmet. They were all like "You can't wear white drake after Starfall of Fire!" "The blood on your shield does not go with your axe!" "Never wear a great helm with a 3 slot toolbelt in winter!" Talor countered with "Die you egg sucking reality show rejects!" Or at least he could have said that if he wasn't so busy matching their blood and heads with the cobblestone. He won some marble shards, some fresh stir fry and lamb, as well as a meditation rug and fishing pole!

Crude* shovel. Not supreme shovel. I see you have the word in the tags, and it's priced accordingly, but not having crude in the title is not nice.

New Tabbards are now in-game! Join LoA to become one of the "Jackals" of Wurm!

How about being able to plant cat's eyes on a straight 3 lane highway in the centre of a tile?(Similar to how we can plant objects and decorations in the tile centre) That would resolve this stupid issue of having it look like the road is offset. I CANNOT stand having cat's eyes down one side of a 3 lane highway it drives my ocd INSANE! Frankly after building a highway or two myself I'm not gonna make it look like junk so the odd person can use a wagoner faster. Seems like the issue is with design not with the folks who did the work to both make the highway and the cat's eyes and also lay them down. How about fixing that before forcing us to lay them in a specific manner?

Zig-Zaggers Beware I have received a missive from the Wagoners United union concerning a few of the new roadways: Well, you heard the man... The Wagoners are threatening to go on strike if they do not get straight path cats-eyes. While I am all for anything that helps with this horrid equine infestation of our lands, I do hate to see such fine quality wagons get needlessly abused. So from here on, no more zig-zag or other complicated cats-eye patterns on the roads that connect between way-stones. Please make them a single straight row. If you find one of these roads to have a zig-zagging cats-eye pattern and there are too many to repair and straighten yourself, please put in a support ticket and we will come look at it. Thank You, Wurm Online Team

fatigue has nothing to do with health concerns, it is a anti-botting tool, a poorly implemented one at that, you would think it be more in there interest to catch the botters rather than just make them switch to another toon once they hit the fatigue

Only because i have a healthy fear of asking for more than one or two things at a time >.<

It's not only kind of crazy, i know that it is crazy. And the problem occors, once you reached it your caught in the 2 hours waiting - 1 hours playing loop. I'm back on 12 hours of fatigue now, but only for the reason that i currently refuse playing, except helping people out at the village. Only a few guys begging me to stay are the reason I'm still here chatting. Against the "advantage" fatigue is not really working. I reached my goal, Papyrusmaking 70, thus wearing a new title. And i think no one is afraid that i show up on Chaos with my "Advantage" and kill everyone with Confetti. But reaching the title in the end only made me feel sad. Not cause its not an achievment, that i have a unique title after 5 weeks playing. I simply knew that now I'm forced wether to regenerate my fatigue, go fighting/meditating for god fakes or play an alt character. Its the simple fact of being told: "Go do something else, the current action you want todo is not supported anymore" Overruling a players gameplay with such a system is simply wrong, and if i would choose to adapt my playstyle instead of fighting against this crap i would feel like a wimp.

Yes, remove access to the white and black light altars. You could modify it completely out if desired but easiest way is just block off the altars.

We're using the Team feature for the impalong to coordinate between staff. However, because people have to log out occasionally, we have to keep reinviting them, which is hard to do for this many people. If the team were remembered when you logged out then it would be much more useful. Maybe drop when you change servers or haven't logged in for a week to prevent teams from growing endlessly.

I had high hopes dragon came with the storage unit GM having fun! Rather large creatures imping our tools!! I think I even see a bear

This has to be a joke thread...

so we have to live with catseyes looking especially horrid on 3 wide highways, cause you can't center them on 3 wide?

Why is a staff member posting on behalf of someone forever banned from the wurm forums, we don't want to hear from this guy, ever.

Well, as the title says, allow us to lower the mine ceiling with concrete instead of raising the floor (as it's actually doing). Having to collapse a few tiles to get the ceiling at the right height for our cave dwellings is bordering insanity after a while.

Log walls for log cabins.

Is there a way to create a mission so that a player can somehow trade an item with an NPC? For example, if the player gives the NPC a pelt, it will give back a coin. I haven't figured out a way to get an NPC to take an item from a regular player, yet, or how to get it to give a coin.

Might be selling my Vyn Priest. Not currently premium. Faith 88, Channeling 50, Prayer 39, Wood cutting 48, farming 49, Meditation: Path of Love, Refresh: 24 https://niarja.com/skill_compare/Riltas (note, not prem)

Please add the ability to RENAME objects on a deed to roles. This way, anyone who has permission (for example Citizen) can rename items regardless of who placed it - crates in crate rack, etc. I don't always use the same character when moving things around and when I need to rename it, I have to load and unload it just so that I can rename it.

Baloo, on Linux almost all the steps are the same, but start with: 1. open a terminal window (on Ubuntu is is ctrl-alt-T) 2. type javaws -viewer The rest is the same as in the Windows tutorial

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Plus, the game promotes -way- too much clicking to be healthful. At any rate, I'm fundamentally wary of any mechanics that punish honest players in attempts to stop cheaters. (For that matter, the community itself could diminished the value of botted accounts by not buying from them or inviting them to kingdoms, and I suspect that would be more effective than the fatigue system.)

When Wimblonian left Ebo didn't he run to Freedom in the middle of the night with someone else's drake and other gear? Galatyn I think you are a good guy and respect your opinion but if someone is continuously in the middle of controversy if makes me wonder.

Thread has been re-opened, Please tone down on the bashing and try and keep the thread constructive. Forum Rules can be found here - https://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/123123-wurm-rules/&do=findComment&comment=1265238 Regards Shakys (Forum Moderator)

Perhaps give us a "fake" green catseye to plant alongside a straight line of real ones?

That seems to have fixed it! TY TY TY

... within game rules and implemented mechanisms!

Wurm is what you make of it

May The Force Be With You Workshop Make an order today! Pm me or make an order on my forum post. Orders can be picked up or delivered!! Cloth Goods 60ql Meditation Rug = 20c 70ql Meditation Rug = 30c 80ql Meditation Rug = 40c 90ql Meditation Rug = 50c 60ql Fine Meditation Rug = 20c 70ql Fine Meditation Rug = 40c 80ql Fine Meditation Rug = 50c 90ql Fine Meditation Rug = 70c 60ql Beautiful Meditation Rug = 30c 70ql Beautiful Meditation Rug = 50c 80ql Beautiful Meditation Rug = 60c 90ql Beautiful Meditation Rug = 80c 60ql Exquisite Meditation Rug = 50c 70ql Exquisite Meditation Rug = 70c 80ql Exquisite Meditation Rug = 1s 90ql Exquisite Meditation Rug = 1.5s Small carpet (Red) = 90ql - 40c Medium carpet (Blue) = 90ql - 50c Large carpet (Yellow) = 90ql - 60c (Can do lower ql if you prefer) Satchels = 5c per satchel Sheets- 1 sheet = 10c , 2 sheets = 20c 90ql Wool Hats = 20c 60ql Cloth Armour = 50c 80ql Cloth Armour = 80c 90ql Cloth Armour = 1s 50ql Triangular Sail = 30c 60ql Triangular Sail = 40c 70ql Triangular Sail = 60c 80ql Triangular Sail = 70c Square sail = 50c Small Square Sail = 30c Kingdom Flag - 20c Kingdom Banner - 20c Flag - 20c Banner - 20c Cloth Barding - 50ql = 50c Puppets - 20c a puppet Leatherworking Quiver 50ql = 5c Waterskin 50ql = 5c Backpack 50ql = 5c Toolbelt 50ql = 20c Animal rugs 50ql = 20c Studded Leather Set 50ql – 50c 60ql – 60c Saddles 50ql – 20c 60ql -30c Leather bardings: 50ql – 50c 60ql – 60c Ropes Normal Ropes: 5c Mooring Ropes - 5c Cordage Ropes - 15c Thick Ropes - 20c Veggies/Fruit/Grains! Place an order today Ql 90 1s per 1k for vegies & Grains 1.5s per 1k for chopped veggies Cotton/Wemp Place an order today 80ql - 1s per 1k Blacksmithing Dioptra 50ql - 50c 60ql - 60c 70ql – 70c Small nails - 1s per 1k Large nails – 1s per 1k Ribbons – 4s per 1k Riverts – 2s per 1k Fence bars – 2s per 1k Horse shoes – 60ql set- 20c 70ql set 40c Lamps Are you in a Dark place? Let us light up your life! Orders are to be: Picked Up Or Delivered only to Indy For now. 10x Iron Lamps/Iron Torch Lamps and Copper Hanging Lamps: 40 ql - 1.50s 50 ql - 2.00s 60 ql - 2.50s 70ql – 3s 10x Brass Lamps and Brass/Bronze Hanging Lamps: 30 ql - 3.50s 40 ql - 4.00s 50 ql - 4.50s 60 ql - 5s 70ql – 5.5s 10x Iron/Copper Candelabra: 50 ql - 3s Masonry Bricks - 2s per 1k Mortar – 2s per 1k Resources Clay – 1s per 1k Dirt – 1s per 1k Carpentry Planks - 1s per 1k Shafts - 1s per 1k Wooden Beams – 2.5s per 1k

+1 on this one, even when it would not help in cases like mine

Presumably I can lead horses with saddlebags from a non-encumbered 5s horse? That could be a pretty fast way to transport some extra stuff.

i dont play wu but some good ideas there . +1

[23:54:20] The items silently disappear from the spirit cottage. You expect them to arrive in less than ten minutes. [23:54:53] The items silently disappear from the spirit cottage. You expect them to arrive in less than ten minutes. Thank you : )

Unfortunately I have also been experiencing numerous, repeated disconnects on the new version of the client. And also can't seem to stay logged in at the Impalong overnight without it inevitably being frozen when I return in the morning. This didn't use to be the case. I will see about posting console logs later this evening. Here you go Baloo (work in Windows 10 too): https://www.wikihow.com/Increase-Java-Memory-in-Windows-7

They protect a 3x3, centered around the tile that owns the NW corner the catseye is planted on

I would personally like this suggestion, but I wonder how fast they would accrue for some of the heavy grinders like myself. It is kind of disappointing to know that people can go over to PvP and get these, but I can never acquire any on this game because I totally refuse to PvP on this game. No matter how much 'incentive' people put in front of me to lure me there, I just simply won't do it because I already had 'rage' issues as a child and try and live a zen life nowadays...and I don't need some person who wants to make me angry by sitting there killing me over and again. I used to play PvP 'capture the flag' stuff on WoW years ago, and it usually left me riled up/antsy/angry(Usually because I'd get stuck on the losing team where they'd intentionally set up games to just give themselves wins and so we'd have AFKers or people who were obviously not even trying/just running in circles or something. There was a term for them...but I can't remember it. I prefer a evenly matched battle with sportsmanlike behavior...not what happens nowadays with 'Whoever has the best item/stats wins'.) to the point where I wanted to smash keyboards on something. It doesn't matter what kind of carrot on a stick you put in front of some players, they won't fall for your bait...

Ya clever, I don't need to read those threads to discover only a minority is affected by this. I am the god-damn minority. And if people like you would learn reading, you would have already realized that from my last statement. So ok its a "Minority-Problem only". So we simply close our eyes and tell the Minority to "Shut Up" or to change there way to live. Thread can be closed, solution found. Thanks a lot for your understanding. Know what, that kind of facism was it, that led me to a state of staying at home instead of going out there. And now i should accept the same crap in a computer game, that i: * Should change my playstyle/live so i fit the masses * Keep my playstyle being forced to wait 8 hours a day for nothing Free yourself from mental slavery

The GMs had some fun while we were waiting for Storage Wurms to start, turning players into goblins to form their own goblin army:

I don't see whats wrong with being able to reuse a reusable item sooner than the game mechanic naturally allows. He's not suggesting you get the wrongly planted spice/herb back, just the planter. If you put bison milk in a barrel instead of sheep's milk you don't throw away the barrel. If you press a grape instead of a lemon, you don't throw away the fruit press. Just let us pull a plant out of planter. Not a big deal. Not a game breaking change, just a little thing to put planters in line with other containers.

@RetrogradeIs there any chance of us getting animal crates for Christmas, or is that a bit too ambitious? I'd like to volunteer for the testing round, as long as a GM can respawn my test animal if it dies or goes missing while crossing Can't wait to get my champ tortoise to Exo!

-1, it would defeat the purpose of the game. You could just go away for a year and come back to a character with 100 skills in everything. Try key binding and managing what you grind at once. For example, do one thing that requires more focus and attention, and one thing that requires less. I like to do fishing and animal husbandry, as AH requires constant movement, but fishing only requires pressing a button a few times every 10 minutes or so.

-1 as much it is tempting, i think it's simply too much automation that could lead to army of alts acting like bots

QL 70 Large Anvil w79 c73 (100c) QL 87 Small Anvil w69 c67 (90c) To Gum please, thanks

QL 18 Steel Shovel c77 (35c) COD to Elva please

I think the problem is that there isn't really any ceiling, ceiling and floor is same thing. I belive Tich or someone said that in a topic about reinforcing mine ceilings some weeks ago.

This is where i'd put my boat with 90QL blue dye on it IF I COULD MAKE ONE. Budda pls.