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My idea to help those crazy long travel times, sailing around Xanadu: Trade Winds. When you reach a decent distance from the shore, you enter into the Trade Winds, which blow 2-3x as strong as the normal winds. We don't want crazy fast sailing near land, because it would make cave canal navigation and docking quite the challenge. I would envision full implementation of this as a new water texture, for the outer 100-200 tiles, leading up to the server crossing border. Don't know how hard adding a choppy water texture would be, but this would be something that could be done down the road. I imagine the speed zone coding could be done quite easily. In addition, it would be fantastic if we could actually see the server border, with some clever little graphic additions. No visible walls or border lines, but some floating debris, like ship wreckage, or a batch of seagulls circling around. Seeing the border was close would be helpful in normal winds, but much more necesary with the Trade Winds, where you could easily shoot through a border crossing unintended. The orange text warning might not provide enough time to respond. Also, while I am at it, lets eliminate the "shark scouts you" message and kick off to water thing. Could we just have a "strong gust of wind" blow us away from those dead zones? Would help in afk sailing quite a bit. Could make it fun and do a pirate ships for the border graphics in those places and "Pirates chase you back into safer waters".

Is this a big problem in wurm and in the real world? My account is 7 years old, with 10000+ hours gameplay. With a avarage irl work salvery that would be worth 7 years x 300000 kronor / 10 = 210000 euro With a consultant hour fee it would be worth maybe 10000 hours x 40 euro per hour = 400000 euro The real value of my monster account might be max 1000 euro That means the work i put into my online char is 1000 euro / 10000 hours = 0.10 euro per hour So if I sold my account it would mean i would end up in the Guiness World Record book as; Tissotx the cheapest labour of all time. If you guys want money, get a job in real life!

So if I understand this right, The Devs of Wurmonline are now supporting sites that allow the breaking of other games ToS. I say this because Playerauctions allows the selling of Many different MMO currencies which are all against the ToS of those games. This is something that I hope you guys here at Wurmonline will reconsider because I do not agree with other people supporting sites that encourage and allow the breaking of other peoples ToS. I know those of you here at Wurm would not like it if someone did that to your game... If your not going to honor the ToS of others, why should anyone honor your ToS? Just my two cents...

Simple suggestion -- reduce or eliminate decay of braziers on deeds Maybe the decay gods are out to get me.. but has anyone else noticed the decay on braziers on deed lately? They seem to be decaying especially fast in the last week or so. Two 50ql small braziers that have gone from 30-32-35 decay in the last week - ON DEED. Really, is it necessary for decay to be so high on deed for these things? Is this... why we can't have .. nice things? *sheds a tear for her old meditation door mat that isn't worth the time it takes to watch over on her deed... and the decorative braziers that may join that category soon*

So what you're saying is you don't respect blizzards terms and conditions and are unlikely to respect wurms? I'll be avoiding this whole shady deal like the plague, and quite frankly, so should Code Club.

Hello, as you probably saw in the launcher today we now recommend Player Auctions for trading accounts, coins and items instead of these forums. Here's the full article: http://www.wurmonline.com/?p=4422 Enjoy! Rolf

Well i know one thing, i certainly wouldn't be sending copies of my passport or utility bills to a website that is nothing more than a gold farmers market and i find it extremely disappointing to see Code Club recommending the use of such a "service" that encourages breaking the terms and conditions of other MMO's.

Here on the Wurm forum it's practically working against you. He's a brand-new account, made for this occasion, making too much noise, has zero experience with the game and it's players, has zero experience with the sort of trades made here. That's not the sort of PR you would like to have.

"Trade Winds" - when you reach a certain distance from shore, you enter the much stronger tradewinds, which can blow 2-3x as hard as a normal wind. Sailing really fast near shore would make it very hard to navigate docks and especially cave canals. Out in the open sea, it would be quite fun I guess I'll add this in suggestions. http://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/112442-trade-winds-faster-sailing-server-borders/

Buy from reputable players in game, and you should be fine.

The Wurm People posted suggestions/complaints and the Dev team responded: Mobs increased on Xanadu through incremental improvements--its quite acceptable now Ore distribution adjusted several times--this is totally fixed, in my opinion Trader draining adjusted with new system to redistribute through various non-AFK activities--economic exploits are severely damaging to MMO game economies, Code Club responded with Vim and Vigor! Fantastic work Code Club, Thanks so much Now, only two more items remain to complete the updates: Domain influence (without this, there are significant problems casting enchants/shattering and nearly all Vyn followers are without what is essentially an affinity in every single skill outside Fighting) Sea/boat travel: with legacy servers the problem was never so acute--the size of Xanadu makes cross server travel an *extreme* inconvenience. It takes around 3-5 hours to go from one side of Xanadu to the opposite side of the map...if you want to round-trip then it will take an ENTIRE REAL LIFE DAY OF YOUR TIME. I will tell you and all that read this: I never would have responded to this complaint with any compassion or feelings till I actually experienced it myself. I have sailed across Xanadu 3 times now and 2 out of the 3 times were at a light breeze. You need to trust me when I tell you that sailing across Xanadu with a light breeze is an experience that will change-your-frakkin-life! Honestly, its very inconvenient; it negatively impacts the economy; it sucks the fun out of the room--whichever room you are in at the moment; its very disrespectful of player's time; its non-value-add; its frikken terrible...absolutely and positively terrible. There are many suggestions on how to fix this, I suggest you implement several of them at the same time and see what 'sticks' Please help to resolve these last remaining issues on Wurm Online's largest server and largest player-location Thanks and Regards! Atlas

Interesting attempt to position yourselves as hero and saviour of the internet, truth is however that your site encourages users to break the terms and conditions of many popular MMO's, an act that could result in the permanent loss of their account. Not only that but for the value of deals we're talking about you require people to send a copy of their driving license and utility bills to you guys, to what amounts to a random online website. Yet you don't define yourself as shady? This whole situation is rotten to the core and personally i wouldn't touch you guys with a 100ft pole.

I don't know how you expect us to take anyone seriously that has a shiny brand new forum account as of this announcement and calls people names.

I can see this new site being used for very high-value items. But for day to day trading, the forums will suite me fine. Of course, Rolf could create an in-game auction house and that would make transactions 100% safe and not cost players additional fees.

No thanks I would rather use the forums and my paypal business account.

I don't like it, what if I don;t use it and someone uses my name there? is there any protection to our names? or is there a set name for Wurmonline? I hate to think someone is using my name to make deals.

When you are using SB and hit zero, it will still stay (Active) Of course you forget that it's active, because it's zero. But when you go ahead and eat a sleep powder / finish mission to store some SB for future, you might of forgotten that SB wasn't turned off when it hit zero. Suggestion is to Freeze sleepbonus automatically when it hits zero, to avoid any unwanted loss

Yes please, i would love for you to publicly explain to me how your business model of getting people to sell in game items for real world cash doesn't break the terms of services of said games that explicitly state such an action is against their ToS and can result in the loss of your account.

I'd be afraid to use your website personally looks like a gold farmer site to me not an auction house. Lets say I sell my blue party hat in runescape (example) whats stopping me from getting banned? Terms of service in runescape is really against real market trades. That's just one mmo you have quite a large listing here.

I feel that Code Club should stick with their original stance of "We don't promote trading, but we wont punish those who do". That way, they can wash their hands of it and it is left to the community where and how to trade among themselves, as we have been doing successfully for years.

This is the kind of person Code Club wants to associate with, and promote? Good business practices, and reputation are ALSO about association. The site sells virtual goods in direct contradiction to many other MMO's TOS. One does not have to wonder if they are shady...just go look at their website..and see the proof..

I don't get it, this site sells things like WoW gold, isn't that illegal or has the ToS changed? We are being strongly recommended to do transactions on a site that sells illegal items in online games?

Hi, the spyglass reward was broken:( We had to move it forward one month in order for it to start working, so you will receive the Owning title the month after. Really sorry about that. And that some months don't seem to increase properly. It's like it may miss out during downtime or lag or something but right now we don't know why.

Rolf, The redistribution of ore on Xanadu was a giant leap in the right direction, but ore distribution is still a problem because it's still concentrated on the previous ore fields. As you now know, the "ore fields" (such as the silver field around Glasshollow) were very densely populated with silver (and a few iron) veins. The change that you made redistributed unexposed silver veins to the rest of Xanadu. The veins became iron, instead of silver, and the location of existing veins did not change, although the resource that you acquire from mining them did. The result, is that the veins in general did not change location at all. Therefore, if your deed is/was situated on an ore field, you are still on an ore field (now of various ores instead of one) and your local neighbor, who may not have been on the ore field, still has 3-5 veins in his 30x30 deed, maybe one of them is no longer iron, and that's IF he didn't find and expose them. Let me illustrate further. Here's an example, a prospected copper mine near Summerholt: As you can see, drastic difference between the two. In the roughly 17x17 prospected area, there exists veins of every resource except marble in this particular mine. Now if this was my mine, I'd be very happy to have this for an on-deed mine. This mine has 28 veins in a 17x17 area. That's 28 out of 289 tiles, or 10% resources. Any mine that wasn't previously on an ore field has 4-6 veins in any given 17x17 area if they are lucky. This comes out to 2% resources... very different from those that were fortunate enough to deed on top of an ore field. Rolf, please consider adding more resource veins to Xanadu. Do not simply switch the resources from one existing vein to another, add more veins (like you did when you added iron veins shortly after launch) so that people might have something other than iron in their 5-vein mines. Thanks for reading, Wargasm

If you have a paypal business account and list in the invoice that it is for digital goods delivered electronically paypal will by their policy not allow chargebacks for the transactions. Happy business!

Might be to much work but it would be a lot better if Wurm offered a auction house style service in game or out of game, with careful planning could basically run itself, much rather see whatever percentage it is from a sale go to Rolf or stay in the Community, instead of lining someone else's pocket.(probably more true for larger transactions.) The thought of using a second party site to conduct transactions isn't very appealing at all.

No not a new server it is Sarek National Park in Rolf's home country of Sweden. Now you know where he gets his ideas for new servers! (That might even be TUNDRA in the lower left, I am not sure) rainbows & unicorns! (the unicorns are being shy, the rainbow is not)

Interesting.

Would be cool if we could mail items to our merchants that have been placed to go up for sale.

Well bottom line for me is i wont be using them but i will be more selective in who i sell to now. I am not trying to make a living off real money trades anyway just to have some fun and game coins to spend along the way.

so no they didnt get you $800, you got credit, that's not the same. the scammer on other hand got a free account and kept all his money. they can't protect you against paypal's virtual goods policies, all they can do is give you play money in their shop.

If is not broken, then better don´t fix it. Current Wurm trading system is not broken, so I don´t see the need for this fix, and the fees are just a rip off. My 2 irons.

I'm pretty sure it is quality content that makes games grow, not gold farmers. Perhaps you have handled more money than most, but i fail to see how this boast vindicates you of shadiness? The shadiness comes from the facts previously mentioned both above by myself and others, most notably that you're happy to defend a site that promotes the breaking of the terms and conditions of many other MMO's and which in doing so could put players accounts at risk. This, is shady.

I don't think there are enough frying pans in all of wurm to cook the amount of popcorn that's going to be needed today

The ethics of buying gold against the ToS is a personal decision, doesn't really matter. The crazy thing is being directed by the Wurm establishment to go to a shady illegal virtual goods site and being told, hey go here - this is safer than buying directly from Aum. (Any names used in this post are purely fictional and do not represent actual ingame people)

i just wish they fix hedge bashing so that they don't trash out tools so harshly. Why should a bash cycle on hedge deal 5.00 damage to my tool when same tool can bash a stone wall and take 0.01 damage

I agree with what Gnomegates said. If this was just a site for Wurm Online auctions, I'd have no issue with it. However, since they're supporting RMTs in games that explicitly have rules against it, it looks super sketchy and I wouldn't trust them with my email address, never mind my money. I've seen friends' accounts in other games get compromised and taken over by the kind of people who sell on these sites (even one of my old game accounts was used for such activities) and it's not fun at all. I've seen people so discouraged by this that they just quit. Maybe some of the sellers on this site are "legit" (as much as they can be) but how can you tell the difference when you don't know them? Even if that doesn't bother you, just Googling "playerauctions reviews" is enough for me not to want anything to do with them. As for this, as far as I know, Rolf and the devs have nothing to do with trades made on the forums. He even posted a "safer account transfer" thread 2 days ago that says things like: Seems to me that they're saying we buy and sell accounts/items at our own risk and there's no support if something goes wrong. So how can this be taking time away from development?

Well i seen a power leveling option mentioned in their site this seems odd to me also we have already established trade on the forums and have been using that for years. Why should we change now only to give a share to a third party system? no thanks

nice job wargasm..what i particularly like about this post is..he didn't just complain and leave it a that..finding solutions always harder..what he did instead..was state a problem or deficiency and demonstrated a fully thought out and analyzed graphical representation. this shows more effectively what may have gone wrong and gives pointers towards how to perhaps fix more optimally. Dev team and Rolf gotta love when someone takes the time in this manner to highlight a weak point in the game. If I on that end i'd field these all day long rather than the ..this is broken or dumb or..there are no ores yadda yadda

I don't see why you wouldn't use this for high risk trades with strangers involving real money

You are not talking about laws, you are in fact talking of really unnecessary restrictions for MMO player who did like to get something for the time they spent.

Not so big/fancy but the first building I made on Xanadu (ended up as the entryway for the highway from K8 to Linton). Idea was just to make an inn and have a place for food, faith, and beds while my friends and I settled around it ... I meant to post it a long time ago but I waited on those silly trellises to decorate the front =) Can't even see them really. But I still like how it turned out. Blue lamp dye is all Silakka ... I told him the name of the deed and he gave me an interpretation of it (which was perfect).

http://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/112157-restrict-joining-deeds-under-siege/ http://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/112156-restrict-shaker-orb-use-with-enemies-in-local/ Directly from one battle http://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/111677-give-combat-bonus-to-hots-template-pmks-during-night/ http://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/111411-new-and-improved-tower-capping-formula/ http://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/111240-lib-priest-balance-truehit-v-nimbleness/ http://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/108704-libila-priest-unbalanced/ There was a few more, about the no locate and strongwall. Now those links are not all of them and everyone knows there are suggestions for certain kingdoms, but this is a problem with BL in general. If you want to go to freedom, fine! I don´t think BL followers should be confined on chaos, but as i suggested before, you should stay as a BL priest and ability to cast (all the stuff that has nothing to do with mycellium and transforming freedom). But ban Lib altars. You can still dig, farm and do all the other stuff that Fo, Vyn and Mag can do. With one restriction, you cannot pray there or make altars. Why not? Edit: Grammar mistakes :/

The funny thing is that this Playerauction thing would have gotten a much better response here if you would have stayed away.

Well what it looks like to me is the professional "gold farmers" have arrived so yes the game will likely grow.. now if this is a good thing or a bad one only time will tell but do expect more bots and things to come too,

Hi Guys, I see a lot of great feedback here, as well as concerns which I feel are perfectly reasonable. First off, I'd like to introduce myself, my name is Jacob Aldaco, and I have been involved in MMOs since... 2005 I suppose? It was WoW that brought me in (no judgement please ), then I moved to EVE, STO, ESO, and a lot of others. I've been at PlayerAuctions 2008, and was originally hired as Quality Control in the Customer Support Team. From CS, I moved on to Communications, then to Marketing, then to heading the int'l MarCom Dept, to Business Development, to finally the position where I am running PA and all it's subsidiary offices around the world. PA has a long and storied history. I don't believe I need to say much about the secondary market/RMT industries, except to say that we have been around since 2000. Next year is our 15 year anniversary. I can't think of another company in this space that has been around this long . There are reasons for our longevity, the primary reason of which is that we support a player's right to trade, as well as the sophisticated risk management systems we have. I'll answer a few questions I've seen so far. I hope I'm welcome here, I could have sent someone else to represent PA, but I thought it would be better for myself to make an appearance and engage with the community. Why a separate site? PlayerAuctions was built in mind to support publishers, so we have the tools available for integration, etc. etc. Going that route however takes time, cost, and reception is unknown. The way we are choosing to do the roll out allows for the following: - PlayerAuctions becomes an option. Had we done full integration, it would have come as quite a surprise, but this way, players can chose direct trades, or to secure their trades on PA. - It also allows PA to gather user feedback to know and understand all the nuanced ways we can support Wurm and its user base. Another reason why partnering with us is a good idea, is because: A secondary market is not an easy thing to manage, develop, and operate. There is only one other company who has done a secondary market: Blizzard (Diablo 3). And even then, they charged users 30%. PlayerAuctions has been in business for 15 years. We have special payment relationships not just with PayPal, Skrill, Neteller, and other payment processors, but we also have a merchant acquiring bank sponsor which allows us to do direct credit card billing. Anyone in business who knows, will tell you just how difficult it is to get an acquiring merchant account. Our banking relationships allows us to maintain our fees between 12% - 15%, half of Blizzard's fees. We have expertise in digital asset trading. In fact, we have fraud loss rates that are below 0.2%, and this is something we are proud of. We have full operations set up, including IT, Finance, Marketing, Customer Support, etc. etc. Partnering with PlayerAuctions allows Code Club better use of their time to code, develop, enhance, and support Wurm Online. Trust me, you don't want Rolf spending his days dealing with payment processors, handling botched trades, fixing charge back issues, etc. etc. Instead, you want us to handle the trades, customer support, and maybe throw our marketing muscle at Wurm to help it grow and flourish. Right? While people may think that PA is a penthouse operation, where everyone drives lambhorghinis, quite the opposite is true. Not only is it complicated and time intensive to manage and develop, but PA only has margins in the 10% range. We're not lining our pockets, as some might think. We are gamings, with vast experience in this space, and love filling a need for users. Our main mantra (and this is probably why Rolf and I are of such like minds), is that there is great benefit when you allow gamers to ascribe value to their gameplay. What Rolf and Code Club are doing... I am so immensely excited about it. Don't think of PA as some "third party site" out of nowhere, but think of us as advocates for users like you who recognize the freedom and value in being able to buy and sell on secondary markets. Why PlayerAuctions? First, PlayerAuctions feels like a start-up (there are only about 50 of us on the team), but we have capital backing by our larger sister companies (ask if you're interested). The start-up element is good, because it means you have executives (like myself) who come down to ground level and talk to the user base, and also means that we are flexible and nimble enough to really accept user feedback and act on it. Second, is that we are big supporters of a gamer's right to trade. But more importantly, we feel it should be done with finesse and security in mind. A large portion of our fees goes back into the system of protecting you guys. Third, we have support globally for a huge number of countries. We also have loads of payment options beyond PayPal and Xsolla, including Bitcoin. Fourth, because our systems are so good at controlling fraud, if in the rare instance it does occur, PlayerAuctions will absorb that fraud, so that the honest trader isn't affected (be it payment fraud... the seller still gets paid, or seller/item fraud... the buyer will still get a refund). Remember what I said about that 10% being funneled back into the system to protect you guys? Trade at PA, something bad happens, we'll take care of it for you. What about the future? It's redundant to make a separate account, separate feedback, etc. etc. Yes, its redundant. But as I said before, doing a minimal viable launch keeps the user option element in place (i.e. PA is not mandatory). But as we progress in the future, we'll be able to easily add integration, merging reputation, etc. etc. For now, tell us what you like about the platform, and tell us of any extra cool things you'd like us to support you on (sponsoring in-game events? sponsoring competitions? hosting in-game events? You name it). What about existing Wurm history? We'll be working together with Rolf to prevent known and existing scammers from taking advantage of using PA. One thing to note about PlayerAuctions is it's sophisticated risk management systems. Our systems plug into security networks which assign scores to users based on transactional history, phone reputation, email reputation, device ID reputation, etc. etc. So if any future scammers come through the PA system, we will have a large capacity to provide Rolf the means to prevent those users back into the Wurm ecosystem. Pretty good ya? Conclusions: There is tons more I can say, but I won't jump the gun. Feel free to engage with me guys. I'm allotted my time to engage with the Wurm Community, and to support this game to the fullest. ~jake (feel free to connect with me: http://cn.linkedin.com/in/jacobaldaco/)

Templars can move from the surface to any cave tile on deed to kill an animal, so they can already move through rock. They just need to be fixed so that they can continue to move through rock when already underground.

Not your most typical coveted screenshot but to me it is wonderful.. i have a breeding pair of sheep on the island now.