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Were aware of the servers being down. We dont however have an estimate time when they will be back up.

You're going way off topic here turning it into an "Epic is better than Chaos" argument. I understand Epic is good, but some of us like the slow skillgain. Also just because I live on Chaos does not mean I go out and hunt down noobs because I'm bored. 90% of my time is spent staying inside, in fact I've near avoided PvP since I stopped doing the HotA. It's not about killing people, it's mainly about hanging out with people I've played with for years since I started up on Wild. If you can't post anything contributing to the suggested idea then please don't post, it does nothing but clutter the thread.

I see the same comments over and over again... I paid for this, I paid for that... Yes but you weren't FORCED to pay it were you? In Wurm you don't HAVE to pay to play the game, you chose to pay to get further benefits of the game. I understand the issues you have with the fact of paying to play it and losing things... I know how you feel. I pay to play wurm too... I have lost over 30+ horses *not all in one go* on Wurm through crashes, bugs and grieving but I haven't gone on an all out rampage against the staff for it. I just accepted it, went off to look for my horses if they were still alive and did what I could to move on. Wurm is about surviving... just think of it as if it were a real life tragedy and when we can finally log back on do what you can to get back on track. I for one am on Celebration and I will personally offer anyone out there that is missing a horse (don't all come running) a horse or 2 when the server comes back up. Anything you need help with all you got to do is ask. I will even go hunting for your horse if it helps. On another note... I GM'd a game years ago that had a server issue with 1 guy working on it... took him a long time to fix because it was a hardware issue... not only that but I tried to help calm 10k people alone and the moment I posted anything I was swamped with hate mail and "fix this now or else" threats. No wonder GM's don't want to post updates in these situations lol. Thought i'd put up my thoughts. Besides i'd rather Rolf fix the issue than have to waste time posting what the issue is

Anyone had the thought that maybe he gets up, and there isn't just a magical switch he can flip to fix the servers? Maybe he has to troubleshoot? You can't expect them to be on within an hour when rolf is still the one handling them. Give the dude a break, let him grab a cup of coffee and dig in to fix the servers ... just please Rolf, don't SPILL the coffee. . .

When playing Wurm, 5 hours is like 5minutes. When in RL waiting for Wurm, 5minutes is like 5 hours.

Feathers

Actually, its a carebear (with droopy ears), he's even at the bottom of the rainbow!

"When you're strange, faces come out of the rain... when you're strange..." -- Jim Morrison

way to spoil the fun bwg, at least let me delude myself about the importance of my opinion

I think i've +1'd hitching posts about twice a month on average.

Hi, Alomst every MMO in existence has weekly downtime for maintenance sometimes lasting up to 9 hours. Whilst login server's crashing, world serve'rs crashing e.t.c. may be unscheduled and inconvenient Wurm has very little downtime compared to the majority of MMO's. This is not to say that it is wrong of you to feel like you deserve some sort of compensation but as a long term MMO player I've come to expect a little downtime now and again. Have fun. Be happy. Cheer's,

I do not have any official words to pass along however just to give everyone who is unaware an update, we normally encounter Rolf looking into any problems about this time of day for him. So IF there is a problem with the Wurm Online end of things he will likely be getting it sorted soon from the time of this post. Please try to be patient a little longer.

It is not people like you Shidoni that I directed that at. You are concerned and have skin in the game but are not throwing crazy comments 2 hours into the downtime. Several people in the thread seem to think there is a huge staff to deal with things like this. The names pop up in every thread that talks about the poor support in this game. 95% of the support in this game are volunteers who do an awesome job and get crapped on by 1% of the players. I can understand there are people who are in bad spots. My alt is not in a great spot but at worst I am dead and lost 2 decent horses. When the servers come back, hopefully I will still be on and I will log on, fix myself and then see what I can do to help others. Complainging about this is not going to fix anything.

A few more people having a little bit of power to either A) Fix the servers remotely or At least give us an idea of whats going on, and some kind of rough ETA, even if its just a "Rolf needs to wake up and have a look at this, we can't fix it. Minimum time to fix is ~4 hours, could be longer kthx." This simple amount of service would stop 95% of the bitching. At least if people knew the servers were going to be down for 4 hours at a minimum they wouldn't be spam trying to log back in to save their good horse.

Given how much patience is required to play Wurm I'm surprised at how impatient people get when it's down .

I'd vote for both of those if I could. Just a moment ago everyone in our alliance chat was complaining about lag and we all temporarily experienced lag up to 1000ms for at least 30 minutes. I wish I could say this is a rare occurance but quite frankly it's not. Wurm is a terribly laggy game and anything that involves near realtime reaction is not going to work whatsoever. Personally I think Wurm's fight system was at it's best prior to any of these new changes that added all sorts of random factors into it, Wurm is not a FPS and I don't think it should ever try to be one.

I'm sure this has been suggested before, but I don't think it's ever made it to its own thread. There needs to be a server strictly for hunting. Currently, the main Freedom cluster has hardly any hunting. I've traveled around everywhere on all four servers, and the hunting was great when they first opened. After people start breeding and collecting aggressive such as hell horses, the hunting has gone down. What hunting there is, Spirit Templars usually kill them. What I propose is a strictly hunting only server East of Independence, sailable by boat. Building, breeding, and penning of animals would not be allowed. There would be no deeds, guard towers, or Spirit Templars. The server should remain PvP-free simply for the fact that I know that Freedom players would enjoy hunting on it as well. After such a server would be implemented, it should solve a lot of problems for people who can't find decent hunting to get their Fighting and Weapon skills up. It would also add value to larger boats as you could transport a mass quantity of meats, hides, and pelts. It would open up a new trade window for people who want to supply bulk meats and other animal produce, which is only a GOOD thing for the economy. The size of such a server shouldn't be too big, perhaps GV sized 1024, or 2048. Items can be crossed between the servers, and perhaps some unique, non-game breaking items could be found on the server for hunters to collect. The animals would be more difficult, and would be a lot more prominent. Horses would be abundant so you could bring some gear to ride on them with. A few ideas that could be implemented along with this server would include: Sleeping Bag (Non-Repairable) - Cloth Tailoring Implemented! 2 Furs 2 Sheets 10 Strings of Cloth --- Offers 1/3 Sleep Bonus compared to a bed --- 5 Minute logout timer Tents (Non-Repairable) - Leatherworking Implemented! 5 Shafts 4 Leather (3kg each) 10 Wires 2 Sleeping Bags --- Offers 1/2 Sleep Bonus compared to a bed --- 5 Minute logout timer Ivory Ivory has a number of functions, but mostly decorational, which wouldn't be game breaking at all. What could be made from Ivory includes Horned Helmets, Ivory Musical Horns, Drinking Horns, and other decorational Ivory items. Unique Respawns Uniques could occasionally respawn here with no messages. This means that each new server that is added wouldn't be plagued with people who only join the server to kill the uniques. The uniques that spawn from new servers would randomly spawn here every couple of weeks after the newest servers are added. Stronger Animals This server could showcase animals far stronger than the typical animals on the other servers. Unique creatures such as the God's animals (Avatars) could respawn here, aggressive, and perhaps would drop loot such as 50-60QL weaponry (not high QL, but mostly trophy material). A server like this could be used to test stronger animals before implemented to mainstream servers, and perhaps one day Rolf could test smarter animal AI, such as troll and goblin outposts, or even NPC strongholds. Item Fixes Branches - Make Kindling out of them Implemented! I don't really see a downside to this, and a server such as this would have the least strain out of any other server as there would be no buildings or deeds. I'd like to see people's thoughts on an idea such as this.

rope on a shaft + 1 shaft makes a hitching post, plant on a tile and hitch your animal to it so it doesn't run off.

Is there a real reason why only Horde of the Summoned can be followers of Libila? After being a mag priest for a long time, I've started wondering why even bother, when you could make an alt there (HOTS) or just convert to hots and still be part of your real kingdom by being in the same alliance. Obviously you would still get attacked by kingdom guards which would make it difficult to really participate in your kingdoms events. So why are Libila priests so over powered and not divided into different gods. I think there should be a chance of being in peace with an other PMK so there could be a hots based PMK attached to a White Light kingdom based one.. Also when Wild was made part of the freedom isles and non pvp, we all got a /transfer to chance religion (because hots needed to have a chance to convert to white light gods, as hots was removed). So now when HOTS and Black Light is back, why isn't there an option to /transfer back to Libila? Updated.

At the moment, we can only extend a deed either N/S or E/W. This is a major problem as it limits the town size (due to unwanted land, or nearby deeds). If it is possible to extend only N or E or S or W, it will benefit lots of players and the financial aspect of Wurm as people are more willing to pay to make necessary adjustments to their deed.

Priests located on the Chaos server may now use a free faith transfer to Libila using /transfer. View the tumblr article

This cracks me up, non stop. Enjoy [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kRZSny-438

Rather than dumbing the events down in magnitude I think they should be more interactive rather than having a relatively instant and uncontrollable end game. Instead have a build up time on the gods' attacks, mark terrain where they're going to happen, and in the case of terrain shaping events that come in multiples space them out instead of having them all occur at once. After the game finishes and the winning god starts doing their thing spawn a number of missions for the servers being affected to help protect their land in a number of ways such as diverting the area affected, reducing the magnitude, or completely eliminating some of the locations to be terraformed. The difficulty of the missions could scale based on the end strength of the gods doing the protection. This way we can still have epic outcomes but have some degree over the control of the damage done.

So you really need a GM to post something we already all know, that the servers are Down or Can't be connected to ( could be a network problem with the host or a server issue but a GM wouldn't know which ), and that we need to wait for Rolf to find out what the problem is and fix it , and as it's still only 6am in Sweden, it could be a while before it gets back up again ? Not really sure how that would actually change anything tbh, people would still be on here posting the same things in the thread they already have done. At the end of the day, i always assume that if there is no info when the servers drop it means that Rolf doesn't yet know what caused it / is still trying to get it fixed. As i've already said, yes its frustrating , yes it could be better, but at the end of the day any company has to work within a budget and being an indie MMO this game doesn't have tons of money , and Rolf himself has even said in the latest Q & A it only makes a tiny profit because everything else goes back into the business which is letting him slowly increase his Staff size.

And just letting it go is? People pay for this. You give your right to excuses up when you take peoples money imo

From my understanding of the IRC, one of the dev's was touching a hamster inappropriately... Servers walked in on them and went into shock. Hamster Ran one direction, servers ran another.. the dev though.. nobody knows what happened to him. Apparently the hamsters didn't make it far before getting a severe wound, which the doctor couldn't aid, and has died. Everything else is up in the air.

Really, a simple amount of service would fix 95% of the bitching? The server has been down less than an hour and look how much bitching has already occured. I suppose you can just reboot the servers and get them running again in 10-15 minutes, and risk them going down for same thing again. Or give the team some time to find out and troubleshoot the problem. There are only a couple of server people on the team, they can be working on the problem or they can be wasting their time answering stupid questions on the forum.

Dam id take a simple solution.......dont unhitch my dam horses when the server goes down

Really ? I'm quite certain that Rolf doesn't see it as a joke and that he takes every server crash / lockup very seriously indeed. It is an indie game and they do not have the funds to pay for a 24/7 server management team so we need ot have a little patience and allow Rolf to wake up ( it is only 5am in Sweden ), have a coffee then make his way to the office where he can start to work on WHAT went wrong then hopefully fix it before bringing the servers back up ( if possible ). Now, i'm not saying it doesn't get annoying at times having to wait, especially when its 4am ( for me ) and your unable to sleep for what-ever reason. Could it be handled better , sure it could , but then , nothing in life is perfect sadly or we would all be living in a Utopian dream. Also, in general the Wurm uptime on it's servers is pretty fantastic as far as i'm concerned, especially when you consider how finnicky computer technology is when something goes wrong. So, relax folks, it will get fixed even if it takes a while.

Hello, We conducted an investigation into the mechanics of taking HoTA statues recently and found them to be in proper working order. Older statues planted before the planting update a while back could be taken while new statues after the update are not takeable once planted. These older statues are fair game and were taken by accepted legal method during a raid. So if you have older statues planted before the respective update you should replant them and secure them better. Thank you, Enki (Asst. Head Game Master)

Will we get /transfers back to Lib, rolf? The Lib priests were forced out of priesthood, should only be fair to let them convert back. Nadroj also has a good point - Is there any reason why the BL was moved from its original position?

From yesterdays Q&A For those unfamiliar with the term: This means aiming and positioning and having to do things like block manually. It tests your hand-eye coordination rather than the skills you have built up in game. No auto-attacks normally Now this can be developed in a lot of ways but... Personally, for me this is a "what is he thinking?" moment. If I wanted twich combat I would be playing tera or another game that features it already in an engine designed for it. For me, Wurm is not designed for this, and given the enormous lag I experience on occasion, could not support it. And given that the one thing that makes Wurm unique is its terraforming, and more so, the extent to which you can terraform, for me that should be where all development focus should go. In the Q&A Rolf said things like: Ship enhancements have been down prioritized, that interior mine doors are a someday thing, that a UI overhaul is way down the line, etc, things that should really have priority over such a fundamental change to combat.

Why should some events be tampered with after the fact when the victim happens to be a noisy person and yet others are left to deal with it because they dont throw a tantrum at what was advertised and warned to be a part of life on Epic? And why should people who dont motivate themselves to paticipate in pvp on a pvp server be rewarded with precious metal from sitting at home doing nothing and taking no risks other than living on a server that is known to have terraforming events?

Why should we have to explain; a whole bunch of people in that other thread you didn't bother to look for have done the hard work already. Go re-read that.

100% the poll is not a good poll. It should have also including yes I want wurm combat to be more fun....as well as other things... if your going to add lame things other than YES or NO. The facts are Wurm combat is very boring for todays MMO PvP and PvE players. It needs some life put into it no matter how that is done.

I think it may be time to drop SB compensation completely. It seems to always start these arguments, and there will never be a 'fair' way to compensate everyone. Nothing in the agreement that promises any compensation anyway, it's been something Rolf gave out of the goodness of his heart. Seems everyone forgets that.

Does the achievement list display Unicorns killed? You could always ask for screenshots before and after the event. I realise these can be doctored, however some amount of trust would need to be placed in the attendees. Maybe using something like join.me to view the entrants before and after tally would work - they just have to invite you to view their screen - you take tally of before & after kills and there you go.

I don't think women and men should be separated. They wanna be world class fighters? Put them up against world class fighters ... i'm just an equal rights activist myself though lol

Like i said last time....time to give someone the keys to the Hamsters Cage!!! And yes he may be up right now going SOB!!! why now!!! * grumble...

SB for downtime is given out at Rolf's discretion. There is nothing in the contract to give anyone any expectation of compensation for downtime. For every time you feel shorted out on compensation, others feel the same when you do get it and they don't. Rolf has been more than fair in the many years I've been playing, even once giving out extra prem time for prem players for an entire weekend we were unable to play. Enjoy the game, accept that stuff happens sometimes, and have a nice day.

I do not think people should be able to leave at all unless they cannot take items. What will happen is they will eventually strip the hides from the dragons and take those away from the server. I would rather see a year or two down the road a possible connection. SO +1 to keeping them seperate. AND -1 to any kind of transfer When the time comes that they might be joined to the other servers then so be it. Until that time deal with it. He said they would not be connecting for a long while when making the new servers. The "vets" knew going in this was a one way trip for awhile.

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Nice suggestion from the OP but these items should only be able to be grown and planted on sand tiles then. Also, flower type pots may be coming soon to the game, so these items would make nice decorative accents to be planted inside of those as well. =Ayes=

Carefully looking at the freejazz interpretative dance that you have just made, I would say... you are proposing that dogs have names like horses ?

The events are stupid indeed. I agree with the OP. Player deeds should never EVER be obliterated by special events. Paying customers should not get screwed over like this. Also doing an event for your God(dess) should not give special valuable ores to your enemy like it does now, this is just stupid! When BL wins WL gets rewarded with glimmersteel, etc. This is very stupid.

+1 I really don't get all the pessismists that vote -1 on this because "It's good the way it is. If you don't plan it right from the beginning, your bad." Why are you people so sadistic ? What's wrong about some feature that is well developed and user friendly ? Plans often change and you might end up needing your deed to be different from what it was in the beginning. Why be sour and grumpy instead of enjoying some possibilities. "No, already heck of a thing finding the edges of peoples' deeds, don't need it going off in some oddball direction." - So what ? Don't deed right next to someone. Game etiquette already says you should not deed in somewhat 50 tiles next to another deed.

Don't move the center ever. And re-program those mechanics so that they don't require it to move. There are already mechanics to restrict really long "skinny" deeds, keep those the way they are.

There is no reason at all that downsizing could not still be limited by min 5 from token, or even better yet just say min 11 wide so someone can buy 2W and 8E past the token. If deed coordinates are N, S, E, W you could upsized downsize any cardinal direction all you want as long as you pay for the expansion and fine with no refund for contractions per the existing resize. These types of checks are absolutely trivial to program.

Farmerbob you realise that open borders between servers worked perfectly fine for many many years. infact once upon a time the highest ore quality you could get on a home server (Now known a s freedom server) was 50ql so you HAD to go to Wild to get 50+ql ore. For years and years this system worked fine, open borders is NOT toxic to PvP in fact closed borders IS toxic to PvP. By removing the ability for people to try PvP at their leisure the player pool becomes stagnant and slowly reduces in size. Open border son the other hand allow freedom players to try PvP without committing and as such brings in more fresh blood. In my village Kratos alone we've recruit many freedomers (not just noobs but long term freedom players) that have come over to Chaos to "Try it out" and decided to stay. These people include, Zivirt, Kharm, Opije, Noom, Motasolo, Frostbite, Roman, Alaskanbob, Brandonsf, Rathalos, Nikkunikku and many others. Some other people have tried it out and decided it wasn't for them. Having people being able to sail over and try it out is the KEY to successful pvp.