Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) This only works for avatars that are not considered "bugged". The following site provides more information on bugged avatars. https://trewq.pl/wurm/mealcheck/ For this easy process, use chopped vegetables, chopped herbs, non-fresh spices and diced meat. Chopping and dicing will provide a little more complexity, thereby increasing the affinity timer. Cook the food items in a pottery bowl and in an oven, which will make a breakfast. I suggest not to use rarity in anything. Use only 1 meat. Multiple vegetables, herbs, and spices can be used, but only one of each different kind. Now on to the process. 1. Dice and place one type of meat into a pottery bowl and cook it in an oven. 2. Taste and record the affinity 3. Match the affinity with it's number located in the below spoiler tags. 4. Repeat with other types of meat. 5. Create a list of meats with and in the order of affinity number. For example you might have something like: a. insect x b. lamb x+1 c. pork x+2 etc. 6. Repeat steps 1-4 with chopped vegetables, one at a time. 7. Add the results to the created list. 8. Repeat steps 1-4 with herbs, one at a time. 9. Add the results to the created list. 10. Repeat steps 1-4 with spices, one at a time. 11. Add the results to the created list. 12. Now you will determine your vegetable, herb, and spice offsets. These are constant numbers that will be added each time a vegetable, herb, and spice are added. Note, that meat has no offset. 13. Choose one diced meat breakfast and one chopped vegetable breakfast from the above testing. 14. Add the single affinity numbers from each breakfast together. This is the guess. 15. Cook the combined chosen diced meat and chopped vegetable in a pottery bowl. 16. Taste and record the affinity and it's number. This number is the actual. 17. Subtract the guess from the actual. This value is the vegetable offset and will be added each time a vegetable is added. 18. Repeat steps 11 - 15 for herbs and spices. This will be the offset and most likely will be different from other offsets. 19. Now on to make the target affinity breakfast. 20. Inputing and manipulating the numbers in Google Sheets or Excel will make the process much easier. You will need to be able to select different vegetables, herbs, spices and/or meat in order to adjust the running total to be the desired target number for the affinity you want. 21. The number may grow very large. Since there are only 138 (0-137) affinities, Modular arithmetic will be used to calculate the actual affinity number. 22. You can read more about Modular Arithmetic at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_arithmetic The gist of it is that once a number exceeds 137, it wraps back around to 0. 23. There are two easy ways to determine the final actual affinity number. 1. use the formula =mod(total,138) in a cell in Google Sheets or Excel, or 2. use two columns and in the first column input the numbers 0-137 downward, one number per cell. At the end, start over with 0 to 137. Repeat this as many times as you like. In the second column, start at 0 and fill in the cells with the next number, but do not stop and start over. Just keep filling in the next number as many times as feel necessary. With this method, the total number in the second column lines up with the actual affinity number in the first column. 24. Choose the items for the meal so that the total (or more correctly the modular arithmetic result) matches the desired target. 25. The more vegetables and herbs that are chosen, the longer the affinity timer and heavier the breakfast. 26. Here is an example. Suppose I dice one bear meat, cook it in a pottery bowl in a non-rare oven and the resulting affinity number is 10. Then, I chop one corn and cook it in a pottery bowl and the resulting affinity number is 15. My guess is that if I cooked both together, then the resulting affinity would be 25, however the actual is 30. The difference between the two is 5 (30-25) and is my vegetable offset. This number most likely will be different between avatars. I do the same thing with bear and ginger and determine the spice offset is 2. I personally use a spreadsheet to make choosing the different numbers easier and determine that I need diced bear meat (10), chopped corn (15), chopped potato (16) and ginger (17) in order to make a Halberd affinity breakfast, #70. This is because 10 + 15 + 5 + 16 + 5 + 17 + 2 = 70. Remember, if the total exceeds 137, then step 21 will determine the actual affinity number. I hope this process enables you to find your desired affinities. This really just scratches the surface with what can be done. Have fun experimenting with changes, like using a frying pan, forge, salt, nuts, etc., things that may increase the difficulty, thereby increasing the affinity timer. There may be some combinations that break this model. I would just avoid those for now if cannot be adjusted. I'm sure a better system will be released to the public over time. Don't forget to wrap it and store in a larder to reduce decay and help extend the life. Also, only one bite is needed, so eat and immediately press escape. This will help it to last longer. It may seem like a lot of work initially to create the list. But once started, you can use it with other non-bugged alts to calculate their affinity foods. Notice how all of the items are the same offset between avatars. The breakfast should be that same offset, as well. 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Posted March 25, 2017 Everything works for me upto 137, after that something goes off. For example: Minced tough gives mining affinity which is 44 on the list and onion gives me bowery which is 103 on the list. My offset for veggies is 4 so this should be total of 151 aka 13th affinity which is mauls but it gives an affinity in Farming which is 33 in the list. Not sure where i am going wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2017 I got it to working in a way that i look which affinity i want and add stuff to get the needed number. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Galatyn said: This only works for avatars that are not considered "bugged". I have one toon that is "bugged". Did anyone report this, if it is a bug? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2017 8 hours ago, Wulfgarr said: Everything works for me upto 137, after that something goes off. For example: Minced tough gives mining affinity which is 44 on the list and onion gives me bowery which is 103 on the list. My offset for veggies is 4 so this should be total of 151 aka 13th affinity which is mauls but it gives an affinity in Farming which is 33 in the list. Not sure where i am going wrong. Mod the Number to 138 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2017 8 hours ago, Wulfgarr said: Everything works for me upto 137, after that something goes off. For example: Minced tough gives mining affinity which is 44 on the list and onion gives me bowery which is 103 on the list. My offset for veggies is 4 so this should be total of 151 aka 13th affinity which is mauls but it gives an affinity in Farming which is 33 in the list. Not sure where i am going wrong. Welcome to 20 shifts. I find these happen roughly every modulo: 33 - 13 = 20 You get far into this, you're going to see the number 20. A lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2017 My offset for chopped veggies, spices and herbs is -27. Did I do something wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2017 im working on a spreed ###### that ya just plug in will meal for no Broken people and it will out put what ya get and will have target goal 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Wargasm said: My offset for chopped veggies, spices and herbs is -27. Did I do something wrong? A few things do have the same value, but for the most part are different. Try a different vegetable. If still unsure, post you affinities for a diced meat in pottery bowl (breakfast) and the same diced meat and a chopped vegetable in a pottery bowl (breakfast), along with the type of meat and vegetable. Edited March 25, 2017 by Galatyn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2017 9 hours ago, Wulfgarr said: I got it to working in a way that i look which affinity i want and add stuff to get the needed number. Yes, that's exactly it. I've found it's best to start in the middle of meat so that when adding different vegetables and such, if you find yourself just a few numbers off, you can adjust meat to match. Same concept with veges, as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2017 26 minutes ago, Galatyn said: A few things do have the same value, but for the most part are different. Try a different vegetable. If still unsure, post you affinities for a diced meat in pottery bowl (breakfast) and the same diced meat and a chopped vegetable in a pottery bowl (breakfast), along with the type of meat and vegetable. So here's my values for diced meats: meat 127 bear 59 beef 60 canine 61 feline 62 fowl 64 game 65 horse 66 humanoid 68 insect 69 lamb 70 pork 71 seafood 72 snake 73 tough 74 And here's my values for all chopped vegetables: cabbage 85 carrot 84 corn 87 cucumber 60 garlic 135 lettuce 88 onion 134 pea pod 89 potato 90 pumpkin 88 tomato 86 Making a breakfast out of diced canine meat (61, HFC) and chopped cucumber (60 dairy food making) made my "guess" number 121. My actual was (94 fishing), which is a difference of 94 - 121 = -(27) So, taking this into account, and as a priest, trying to make a #118 (Channeling) breakfast, I tried getting the numbers to add up (subtracting 27 for every vegetable, spice or herb that I added beyond the first ingredient) but I'm not getting the target results. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2017 For me the hard if not impossilbe part is with frying pans as you cant cook up breakfasts for all. So far the with meat and veggie it kinda works, but not very well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2017 19 hours ago, Wargasm said: So here's my values for diced meats: Hide contents meat 127 bear 59 beef 60 canine 61 feline 62 fowl 64 game 65 horse 66 humanoid 68 insect 69 lamb 70 pork 71 seafood 72 snake 73 tough 74 And here's my values for all chopped vegetables: Hide contents cabbage 85 carrot 84 corn 87 cucumber 60 garlic 135 lettuce 88 onion 134 pea pod 89 potato 90 pumpkin 88 tomato 86 Making a breakfast out of diced canine meat (61, HFC) and chopped cucumber (60 dairy food making) made my "guess" number 121. My actual was (94 fishing), which is a difference of 94 - 121 = -(27) So, taking this into account, and as a priest, trying to make a #118 (Channeling) breakfast, I tried getting the numbers to add up (subtracting 27 for every vegetable, spice or herb that I added beyond the first ingredient) but I'm not getting the target results. Plz test by making a breakfast (pottery bowl in same oven) of diced canine (61), chopped cucumber (60), chopped carrot (84) and chopped corn (87) and see if you receive butcher knife. 61+(60-27)+(84-27)+(87-27)=211=73=butcher knife If you don't receive butcher knife, then you may be bugged and this system won't work for that avatar. Try it on an alt and see if same results. The values will be different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2017 Thank u mate, it helped me a lot. Now I'm able to make any affinity meals I need. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2017 Not sure if my avatar is 'bugged' or i am not smart enough. horse meat did give : 99 insect meat did give : 78 onion did give : 49 pumpkin did give : 3 horse and onion did give : guess : 148, actual : 88 (result -60) insect and pumpkin did give: guess 81, actual : 45 (result -36) Should the results not be the same ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Faldor said: Not sure if my avatar is 'bugged' or i am not smart enough. horse meat did give : 99 insect meat did give : 78 onion did give : 49 pumpkin did give : 3 horse and onion did give : guess : 148, actual : 88 (result -60) insect and pumpkin did give: guess 81, actual : 45 (result -36) Should the results not be the same ? Yes, it should have been the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 27, 2017 hope this doesn't get nerfed, ty for the tip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2017 OK spreadsheet done**.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AYC-X9MjYYZoi0qCH6QPRwagIYgpoeC4jfszFRdy7fk/edit?usp=sharing Click File 'then' Make a Copy Then open it and have fun there are drop down menu's in it.. Yes yes i know everything not added but its good start. ill update it as i can.. if ya find something that is broken screenshot it 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2017 7 hours ago, icbash said: OK spreadsheet done**.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AYC-X9MjYYZoi0qCH6QPRwagIYgpoeC4jfszFRdy7fk/edit?usp=sharing Click File 'then' Make a Copy Then open it and have fun there are drop down menu's in it.. Yes yes i know everything not added but its good start. ill update it as i can.. if ya find something that is broken screenshot it Im gonna test it later, but it looks awesome! Gj Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2017 7 hours ago, icbash said: OK spreadsheet done**.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AYC-X9MjYYZoi0qCH6QPRwagIYgpoeC4jfszFRdy7fk/edit?usp=sharing Click File 'then' Make a Copy Then open it and have fun there are drop down menu's in it.. Yes yes i know everything not added but its good start. ill update it as i can.. if ya find something that is broken screenshot it Im gonna test it later, but it looks awesome! Gj Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Kabill said: tfw ur broken :'( rolf did that intentionally to nerf you bud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Kabill said: tfw ur broken :'( did ya make the meal? if it pops up IF your broken this will be your meal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 29, 2017 OK new V1.004 out fixed few errors that happened with Salt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites