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I have been out hunting improving my fight skill when i noticed troll are attacking super fast like 1-2 second intervals  i can handles this with my main but new players and my alts cant handle being beat on this much was this and intentional change or did the code get broke with the new update

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Yes, it does seem that something has changed with the trolls.  Something unpleasant, I might add.

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it's something i noticed on the test server, didn't pay much attention because its just a test server...

 

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I met some speedy trolls myself, but was fighting 7-8 mobs at once, so hard to post only trolls fight logs; will need to test a bit more later, but it seems something has been slightly changed.

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I think it was even faster than just 1-2 seconds. It was swinging the club wildly. It was an old troll, with no special name in addition

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They're definitely attacking faster. Think something similar has happened to other creatures as well, but I'm not completely sure about that.

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Plenty of reports about it on Xanadu. Very noticeable with trolls, their swing timer is pretty insane.

 

I've also heard players telling that other mobs are harder than before too, noticeable bears. Cannot confirm bears myself.

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I think we need harder hitting animals the way it is now once you get past that threshold there is not much out there that is a challenge.

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rumors has it they want to bring in valari mobs to freedom which is all fine and dand but you cant have a mob like a troll hitting so fast that new players dont even have a chance to run away most noobs can only take 3 or 4 hits for a troll before it kills them with a troll swinging 1-2 intervals they have 6 secs of life

 

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Yes trolls do hit a lot faster. The first combat log is of a recent troll fight I had. I have 76fs and 50 huge axe. I was using a 90ql enchanted huge axe and wearing 80ql plate. 

 

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[01:57:21] An aged troll moves in to attack you.
[01:57:23] You try to move into position for the  right parts of an aged troll.
[01:57:24] The attack to the chest glances off your armour.
[01:57:25] You move into position for the  right parts of an aged troll.
[01:57:27] You need to get into the fight more first.
[01:57:27] An aged troll safely parries with a huge shod club.
[01:57:27] You cut an aged troll deadly hard in the right hand and damage it.
[01:57:28] You barely evade the blow to the right underarm.
[01:57:28] An aged troll hits the "Zachariah's Cart" with huge force!
[01:57:31] You need to get into the fight more first.
[01:57:33] The attack to the stomach glances off your armour.
[01:57:33] You need to get into the fight more first.
[01:57:34] An aged troll easily parries with a huge shod club.
[01:57:35] You need to get into the fight more first.
[01:57:36] You need to get into the fight more first.
[01:57:37] You need to get into the fight more first.
[01:57:37] The attack to the chest glances off your armour.
[01:57:38] You need to get into the fight more first.
[01:57:39] You need to get into the fight more first.
[01:57:40] You cut an aged troll deadly hard in the lower back and damage it.
[01:57:40] An aged troll is knocked senseless from the hit.
[01:57:41] You need to get into the fight more first.
[01:57:42] An aged troll regains her bearings.
[01:57:42] You need to get into the fight more first.
[01:57:43] An aged troll bites you very hard in the right thigh and irritates it.
[01:57:43] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:57:43] You need to get into the fight more first.
[01:57:45] The attack to the right thigh glances off your armour.
[01:57:45] You try to focus.
[01:57:47] An aged troll claws you hard in the chest and irritates it.
[01:57:47] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:57:49] An aged troll strikes you very hard in the left thigh and irritates it.
[01:57:49] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:57:49] You balance your feet and your soul.
[01:57:49] An aged troll safely parries with a huge shod club.
[01:57:49] You miss with the huge axe.
[01:57:50] You try to focus.
[01:57:51] You lose some focus.
[01:57:51] An aged troll mauls you extremely hard in the stomach and harms it.
[01:57:51] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:57:53] You try to move into position for the uppercenter parts of an aged troll.
[01:57:53] An aged troll strikes you very hard in the right thigh and irritates it.
[01:57:53] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:57:55] You move into position for the uppercenter parts of an aged troll.
[01:57:55] An aged troll safely parries with a huge shod club.
[01:57:55] Your attack glances off an aged troll's armour.
[01:57:56] An aged troll claws you hard in the chest and irritates it.
[01:57:56] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:57:57] You try to focus.
[01:57:58] An aged troll bites you very hard in the chest and irritates it.
[01:57:58] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:58:00] An aged troll strikes you very hard in the left thigh and irritates it.
[01:58:00] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:58:00] An aged troll safely parries with a huge shod club.
[01:58:00] You cut an aged troll deadly hard in the neck and damage it.
[01:58:02] You try to focus.
[01:58:02] An aged troll mauls you extremely hard in the stomach and hurts it.
[01:58:02] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:58:05] An aged troll strikes you hard in the stomach and irritates it.
[01:58:05] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:58:07] You miss with the huge axe.
[01:58:08] An aged troll suddenly goes into a frenzy.
[01:58:08] The attack to the right underarm glances off your armour.
[01:58:10] You try to focus.
[01:58:11] An aged troll seems to shelter her higher parts.
[01:58:14] The attack to the chest glances off your armour.
[01:58:14] You miss with the huge axe.
[01:58:15] You try to focus.
[01:58:16] The attack to the chest glances off your armour.
[01:58:19] An aged troll kicks you hard in the chest and hurts it.
[01:58:19] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:58:20] You try to focus.
[01:58:21] An aged troll strikes you hard in the stomach and irritates it.
[01:58:21] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:58:21] You cut an aged troll deadly hard in the left shoulder and damage it.
[01:58:23] An aged troll bites you very hard in the stomach and hurts it.
[01:58:23] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:58:23] You try to focus.
[01:58:25] You lose some focus.
[01:58:25] An aged troll mauls you deadly hard in the right thigh and harms it.
[01:58:25] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:58:26] You try to focus.
[01:58:27] An aged troll strikes you very hard in the right hand and hurts it.
[01:58:29] An aged troll kicks you pretty hard in the chest and slaps it.

[01:58:29] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:58:31] You miss with the huge axe.
[01:58:31] You try to focus.
[01:58:31] You lose some focus.
[01:58:31] An aged troll bites you extremely hard in the stomach and harms it.
[01:58:31] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:58:33] You miss with the huge axe.
[01:58:34] The attack to the chest glances off your armour.
[01:58:34] You try to focus.
[01:58:36] An aged troll kicks you hard in the right underarm and irritates it.
[01:58:38] The attack to the right thigh glances off your armour.
[01:58:40] You try to focus.
[01:58:40] The attack to the left underarm glances off your armour.
[01:58:42] An aged troll kicks you hard in the right underarm and irritates it.
[01:58:42] You miss with the huge axe.
[01:58:44] You try to move into position for the  right parts of an aged troll.
[01:58:45] You lose some focus.
[01:58:45] An aged troll mauls you deadly hard in the stomach and harms it.
[01:58:45] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[01:58:46] You move into position for the  right parts of an aged troll.
[01:58:47] You miss with the huge axe.
[01:58:47] You try to focus.
[01:58:48] An aged troll strikes you hard in the left underarm and irritates it.
[01:58:50] An aged troll kicks you hard in the left underarm and irritates it.

[01:58:53] You try to cut an aged troll.
[01:58:59] You try to cut an aged troll.
[01:58:59] An aged troll moves in to attack you.
[01:59:05] An aged troll moves in to attack you.
[01:59:08] You try to cut an aged troll.
[01:59:08] An aged troll moves in to attack you.
[01:59:26] You try to cut an aged troll.
[01:59:31] You try to cut an aged troll.
[01:59:39] You try to cut an aged troll.
[01:59:39] An aged troll moves in to attack you.
[01:59:42] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:00:36] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:00:48] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:00:48] An aged troll moves in to attack you.
[02:00:51] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:00:56] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:00:56] An aged troll moves in to attack you.
[02:00:59] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:00:59] An aged troll moves in to attack you.
[02:01:08] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:01:26] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:01:26] An aged troll moves in to attack you.
[02:01:44] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:01:44] An aged troll moves in to attack you.
[02:01:52] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:01:52] An aged troll moves in to attack you.
[02:02:04] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:02:11] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:02:14] An aged troll strikes you very hard in the stomach and irritates it.
[02:02:14] Your armour hurts an aged troll.
[02:02:17] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:02:17] An aged troll moves in to attack you.
[02:02:21] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:02:30] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:02:33] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:02:33] An aged troll moves in to attack you.
[02:02:38] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:02:38] An aged troll moves in to attack you.
[02:03:58] An aged troll hits the large cart with huge force!
[02:04:03] An aged troll mauls Kakiharakeenan deadly hard in the stomach and damages it.
[02:04:08] You try to cut an aged troll.
[02:04:09] An aged troll mauls Kakiharakeenan deadly hard in the stomach and damages it.
[02:04:10] You try to move into position for the upper right parts of an aged troll.
[02:04:12] You fail to move into position.
[02:04:13] You need to get into the fight more first.
[02:04:14] You need to get into the fight more first.
[02:04:15] You cut an aged troll deadly hard in the stomach and damage it.
[02:04:18] An aged troll strikes Kakiharakeenan very hard in the chest and hurts it.
[02:04:19] Kakiharakeenan cuts an aged troll extremely hard in the chest and harms it.

A good samaritan saved me that was close by. I noticed too just now while going through the combat log that the troll hit the cart that I was on. I don't know if that has always been a thing I just have never noticed it. 

 

The next combat log is a troll fight that I had before the recent update,

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[14:33:44] Mature troll moves in to attack you.
[14:33:44] Mature troll suddenly goes into a frenzy.
[14:33:46] Mature troll seems to target your uppercenter parts.
[14:33:46] You try to move into position for the  right parts of Mature troll.
[14:33:47] You move into position for the  right parts of Mature troll.
[14:33:47] Mature troll targets your uppercenter parts.
[14:33:49] You need to get into the fight more first.
[14:33:49] Mature troll easily parries with a huge shod club.
[14:33:50] Mature troll seems to target your upper left parts.
[14:33:50] Mature troll targets your upper left parts.
[14:33:51] You need to get into the fight more first.
[14:33:53] Mature troll seems to target your  right parts.
[14:33:55] You miss with the huge axe.
[14:33:55] Mature troll targets your  right parts.
[14:33:56] You need to get into the fight more first.
[14:33:56] Mature troll mauls you deadly hard in the right thigh and harms it.
[14:33:56] Your armour hurts Mature troll.
[14:33:58] You need to get into the fight more first.
[14:33:59] Mature troll seems to target your lower left parts.
[14:33:59] You need to get into the fight more first.
[14:34:00] You cut Mature troll deadly hard in the right upper arm and damage it.
[14:34:01] Mature troll targets your lower left parts.
[14:34:01] You need to get into the fight more first.
[14:34:03] You need to get into the fight more first.
[14:34:04] You need to get into the fight more first.
[14:34:05] You need to get into the fight more first.
[14:34:05] The attack to the left foot glances off your armour.
[14:34:06] Your attack glances off Mature troll's armour.
[14:34:06] You need to get into the fight more first.
[14:34:08] You need to get into the fight more first.
[14:34:12] Mature troll mauls you deadly hard in the left thigh and harms it.
[14:34:12] Your armour hurts Mature troll.
[14:34:12] Mature troll safely parries with a huge shod club.
[14:34:12] Your attack glances off Mature troll's armour.
[14:34:15] You try to move into position for the uppercenter parts of Mature troll.
[14:34:15] You move into position for the uppercenter parts of Mature troll.
[14:34:17] The attack to the left thigh glances off your armour.
[14:34:17] You try to focus.
[14:34:21] You balance your feet and your soul.
[14:34:21] You miss with the huge axe.
[14:34:22] Mature troll seems to target your  right parts.
[14:34:22] You try to focus.
[14:34:24] Mature troll targets your  right parts.
[14:34:24] You lose some focus.
[14:34:24] Mature troll mauls you deadly hard in the chest and harms it.
[14:34:24] Your armour hurts Mature troll.
[14:34:24] Your attack glances off Mature troll's armour.
[14:34:26] You try to focus.
[14:34:27] You safely parry with your huge axe.
[14:34:27] The attack to the right upper arm glances off your armour.
[14:34:30] Your attack glances off Mature troll's armour.
[14:34:32] You try to focus.
[14:34:32] You barely evade the blow to the right upper arm.
[14:34:34] The attack to the right thigh glances off your armour.
[14:34:36] You are now focused on the enemy and its every move.
[14:34:36] Your attack glances off Mature troll's armour.
[14:34:37] You try to focus.
[14:34:38] The attack to the right upper arm glances off your armour.
[14:34:38] The attack to the stomach glances off your armour.
[14:34:41] You feel lightning inside, quickening your reflexes.
[14:34:41] Mature troll easily parries with a huge shod club.
[14:34:41] Mature troll seems to target your  left parts.
[14:34:44] Mature troll targets your  left parts.
[14:34:44] You lose some focus.
[14:34:44] Mature troll mauls you deadly hard in the lower back and harms it.
[14:34:44] Your armour hurts Mature troll.
[14:34:44] You try to move into position for the  right parts of Mature troll.
[14:34:46] You move into position for the  right parts of Mature troll.
[14:34:46] You miss with the huge axe.
[14:34:47] You try to focus.
[14:34:51] You cut Mature troll deadly hard in the right thigh and damage it.
[14:34:52] Mature troll kicks you hard in the left upper arm and irritates it.
[14:34:54] You try to move into position for the uppercenter parts of Mature troll.
[14:34:55] You move into position for the uppercenter parts of Mature troll.
[14:34:55] Mature troll seems to focus.
[14:34:56] Mature troll now seems more focused.
[14:34:57] You cut Mature troll deadly hard in the right shoulder and damage it.
[14:34:58] The attack to the left thigh glances off your armour.
[14:34:59] The attack to the left upper arm glances off your armour.
[14:35:01] You try to focus.
[14:35:05] Your consciousness is lifted to a higher level, making you very attentive.
[14:35:05] Your attack glances off Mature troll's armour.
[14:35:06] You try to focus.
[14:35:06] You easily parry with your huge axe.
[14:35:10] You feel supernatural. Invincible!
[14:35:10] Mature troll safely parries with a huge shod club.
[14:35:10] You cut Mature troll deadly hard in the left shoulder and damage it.
[14:35:11] You lose some focus.
[14:35:11] Mature troll mauls you extremely hard in the lower back and hurts it.
[14:35:11] Your armour hurts Mature troll.
[14:35:11] You try to focus.
[14:35:15] You lose some focus.
[14:35:15] Mature troll bites you extremely hard in the lower back and harms it.
[14:35:15] Your armour hurts Mature troll.
[14:35:15] Mature troll easily parries with a huge shod club.
[14:35:16] You try to focus.
[14:35:19] Mature troll seems to focus.
[14:35:20] You fail to reach a higher degree of focus.
[14:35:20] You feel lightning inside, quickening your reflexes.
[14:35:20] You cut Mature troll deadly hard in the right shoulder and damage it.

 

So whatever you make of this, than each to his own. But I find it very obvious that they hit a lot faster now. An addition I very much do not like. Trolls were already OP as it is. 

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Just met a troll too(tbh i dont notice any difference in any of the creatures).. my log:

 

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[20:41:10] An aged troll moves in to attack you.
[20:41:11] An aged troll mauls you extremely hard in the stomach and harms it.
[20:41:13] You easily parry with your longsword.
[20:41:14] You try to move into position for the upper right parts of an aged troll.
[20:41:15] You move into position for the upper right parts of an aged troll.
[20:41:15] An aged troll skillfully parries with a huge shod club.
[20:41:15] You miss with the longsword.
[20:41:16] You aim to push an aged troll over with your shield.
[20:41:20] You skillfully evade the blow to the stomach.
[20:41:20] An aged troll is sprawling on the ground.
[20:41:20] You cut an aged troll deadly hard in the top of the back and harm it.
[20:41:22] An aged troll regains his bearings.
[20:41:22] An aged troll safely parries with a huge shod club.
[20:41:22] You miss with the longsword.
[20:41:24] An aged troll bites you very hard in the chest and hurts it.
[20:41:26] The attack to the right thigh glances off your armour.
[20:41:26] Your attack glances off an aged troll's armour.
[20:41:28] An aged troll mauls you extremely hard in the stomach and harms it.
[20:41:30] An aged troll kicks you pretty hard in the stomach and slaps it.
[20:41:30] Your attack glances off an aged troll's armour.
[20:41:33] An aged troll tries to strike you but you raise your shield and parry.
[20:41:33] An aged troll strikes you hard in the right thigh and irritates it.
[20:41:35] An aged troll safely parries with a huge shod club.
[20:41:35] You cut an aged troll deadly hard in the right shoulder and harm it.
[20:41:38] The attack to the right underarm glances off your armour.
[20:41:39] You cut an aged troll deadly hard in the right shoulder and harm it.
[20:41:41] You barely evade the blow to the chest.
[20:41:43] You miss with the longsword.
[20:41:47] You barely evade the blow to the right underarm.
[20:41:47] An aged troll easily parries with a huge shod club.
[20:41:48] You aim to push an aged troll over with your shield.
[20:41:49] The attack to the stomach glances off your armour.
[20:41:52] An aged troll is sprawling on the ground.
[20:41:52] An aged troll easily parries with a huge shod club.
[20:41:53] An aged troll regains his bearings.
[20:41:54] You easily parry with your longsword.
[20:41:56] An aged troll kicks you pretty hard in the right thigh and slaps it.
[20:41:56] You miss with the longsword.
[20:41:59] The attack to the left thigh glances off your armour.
[20:42:00] You pierce an aged troll deadly hard in the chest and harm it.
[20:42:01] You barely evade the blow to the right underarm.
[20:42:03] An aged troll claws you hard in the stomach and irritates it.
[20:42:04] An aged troll safely parries with a huge shod club.
[20:42:04] You cut an aged troll deadly hard in the right upper arm and harm it.
[20:42:05] You skillfully evade the blow to the stomach.
[20:42:08] An aged troll strikes you very hard in the chest and irritates it.
[20:42:08] You pierce an aged troll extremely hard in the right upper arm and harm it.
[20:42:12] An aged troll kicks you hard in the stomach and irritates it.
[20:42:12] An aged troll easily parries with a huge shod club.
[20:42:15] An aged troll bites you extremely hard in the chest and hurts it.
[20:42:16] Your attack glances off an aged troll's armour.
[20:42:17] You skillfully evade the blow to the stomach.
[20:42:21] Your attack glances off an aged troll's armour.
[20:42:22] You aim to push an aged troll over with your shield.
[20:42:23] The attack to the left thigh glances off your armour.
[20:42:25] An aged troll bites you very hard in the chest and irritates it.
[20:42:26] An aged troll safely parries with a huge shod club.
[20:42:26] You miss with the longsword.
[20:42:27] You aim to push an aged troll over with your shield.
[20:42:29] An aged troll strikes you very hard in the chest and irritates it.
[20:42:30] You aim to push an aged troll over with your shield.
[20:42:31] An aged troll tries to claw you but you raise your shield and parry.
[20:42:34] An aged troll swiftly dodges your bash.
[20:42:34] Your attack glances off an aged troll's armour.
[20:42:35] An aged troll skillfully parries with a huge shod club.
[20:42:35] You miss with the longsword.
[20:42:36] You safely parry with your longsword.
[20:42:36] An aged troll strikes you very hard in the stomach and irritates it.
[20:42:38] The attack to the left thigh glances off your armour.
[20:42:39] An aged troll seems to target your  right parts.
[20:42:39] You cut an aged troll deadly hard in the right upper arm and harm it.
[20:42:42] An aged troll targets your  right parts.
[20:42:43] An aged troll tries to strike you but you raise your shield and parry.
[20:42:44] You pierce an aged troll deadly hard in the right upper arm and damage it.
[20:42:45] An aged troll tries to maul you but you raise your shield and parry.
[20:42:47] You skillfully evade the blow to the right thigh.
[20:42:48] An aged troll safely parries with a huge shod club.
[20:42:48] You miss with the longsword.
[20:42:50] An aged troll tries to bite you but you raise your shield and parry.
[20:42:50] The attack to the right underarm glances off your armour.
[20:42:52] Your attack glances off an aged troll's armour.
[20:42:54] An aged troll strikes you very hard in the right hand and irritates it.
[20:42:56] You miss with the longsword.
[20:43:00] An aged troll safely parries with a huge shod club.
[20:43:00] You pierce an aged troll deadly hard in the top of the back and harm it.


 

Edited by rixk

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we need this!  Trolls are the toughest normal beast in the game and any noob can survive an encounter easy enough, by running to guards, into a house etc.  There should be a very distinct difference between starter mobs and the hardest.  With good gear, I could solo a brand new alt on a troll and win about 50-60% of the time.  That shouldn't be possible.  With the faster hitting trolls, I bet that survival rate is down to where it should be.

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but let's improve the skill gain from a kill while we are at it.

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Well, where I live there are so many trolls that I named my second deed Heartwood Troll Sanctuary, the upper area is Troll Heights, and the keep on my main deed is Trollwood Keep.  lol

 

Trolls do way too much damage to equipment to be worth fighting them even as they were but in my neighborhood it's pretty much unavoidable.  I luckily have a friend who can imp my gear while I'm trying to skill up my smithing, etc., but I always fear over-using my welcome in that regard because he can imp my sword & shield over 80 one day and within a few days they're under 60 again.  And that's with trying to avoid the pesky things.  Out of the question to actually hunt them.

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20 minutes ago, Wurmhole said:

but let's improve the skill gain from a kill while we are at it.

 

Yeah, with a heads up that the change is coming along with a boost to the gains, sounds great. I have no problem with trolls, even speedier ones, when I realized that one was on steroids. I just avoided having more than 1 mob on me at a time. 

 

I think this is a bug though. Keegan had said somewhere that there should have been no change to them. Maybe he'll see this and confirm.

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I don't think this just applies to trolls, either. I think people are mainly noticing it on trolls because they're already sort of difficult, but I swear I've had more trouble with everything from seals to brown bears as well.

 

Some quick log snippets:

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RECENT LOGS:
(2016-05-25)

 

[21:54:53] You try to pierce an old seal.
[21:54:56] An old seal bites you hard in the left underarm and harms it.
[21:54:57] An old seal strikes you hard in the stomach and hurts it.
[21:54:58] You pierce an old seal deadly hard in the chest and damage it.
[21:55:00] You safely parry with your long spear.
[21:55:00] The attack to the left thigh glances off your armour.
[21:55:01] The attack to the chest glances off your armour.
[21:55:03] Your attack glances off an old seal's armour.
[21:55:07] You pierce an old seal deadly hard in the lower body and damage it.
[21:55:11] An old seal strikes you hard in the right underarm and irritates it.
[21:55:12] You pierce an old seal deadly hard in the chest and damage it.
[21:55:17] You pierce an old seal deadly hard in the chest and damage it.
[21:55:20] The attack to the chest glances off your armour.
[21:55:22] An old seal barely evades the blow to the upper body.
[21:55:24] You need to get into the fight more first.
[21:55:24] The attack to the stomach glances off your armour.
[21:55:25] The attack to the stomach glances off your armour.
[21:55:26] You try to move into position for the uppercenter parts of an old seal.
[21:55:27] You move into position for the uppercenter parts of an old seal.
[21:55:27] You pierce an old seal deadly hard in the chest and damage it.

 

[22:06:48] You try to pierce an old seal.
[22:06:52] An old seal bites you hard in the chest and hurts it.
[22:06:53] You pierce an old seal deadly hard in the chest and damage it.
[22:06:53] The attack to the chest glances off your armour.
[22:06:54] An old seal bites you hard in the chest and hurts it.
[22:06:57] You pierce an old seal deadly hard in the chest and damage it.
[22:06:58] You easily parry with your long spear.
[22:07:02] You pierce an old seal deadly hard in the chest and damage it.
[22:07:03] An old seal headbutts you very hard in the stomach and hurts it.
[22:07:07] You pierce an old seal deadly hard in the lower body and damage it.


OLDER LOGS:
(2015-04)


[22:51:27] You try to pierce a Old seal.
[22:51:28] You try to move into position for the uppercenter parts of Old seal.
[22:51:30] You move into position for the uppercenter parts of Old seal.
[22:51:32] You miss with the long spear.
[22:51:34] You skillfully parry with your long spear.
[22:51:36] Old seal barely evades the blow to the upper body.
[22:51:39] Old seal headbutts you hard in the right thigh and hurts it.
[22:51:41] You pierce Old seal deadly hard in the chest and damage it.
[22:51:46] You pierce Old seal deadly hard in the upper body and damage it.
[22:51:48] Old seal headbutts you hard in the stomach and irritates it.
[22:51:51] The attack to the right thigh glances off your armour.
[22:51:51] You pierce Old seal deadly hard in the neck and damage it.
[22:51:53] You safely parry with your long spear.
[22:51:56] You pierce Old seal deadly hard in the chest and damage it.

 

[21:56:15] You try to pierce an Old seal.
[21:56:20] You pierce Old seal deadly hard in the chest and damage it.
[21:56:21] You try to move into position for the uppercenter parts of Old seal.
[21:56:22] You move into position for the uppercenter parts of Old seal.
[21:56:23] You easily parry with your long spear.
[21:56:24] You pierce Old seal deadly hard in the neck and damage it.
[21:56:29] You pierce Old seal deadly hard in the chest and damage it.
[21:56:33] You easily parry with your long spear.
[21:56:34] You pierce Old seal deadly hard in the head and damage it.
[22:06:53] The attack to the chest glances off your armour.
[22:06:54] An old seal bites you hard in the chest and hurts it.
[22:06:57] You pierce an old seal deadly hard in the chest and damage it.
[22:06:58] You easily parry with your long spear.
[22:07:02] You pierce an old seal deadly hard in the chest and damage it.
[22:07:03] An old seal headbutts you very hard in the stomach and hurts it.
[22:07:07] You pierce an old seal deadly hard in the lower body and damage it.

 

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I've been cleaning out trolls on the island with short sword for skillgain... not noticed anything out of the norm.   I've been fighting aggresive stance, short sword, on foot, and large wood shield... having no issues KOing them. 

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Yeah they hitting faster, but Keenan insists nothing was changed.

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I can't tell a difference in attack speed but if enough are saying it's changed.. I'd wager there is something to it.

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Watch your combat logs, the hits times are closer in times

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I haven't taken the time yet to go back through my logs and make comparisons, (there's a bazillion trolls in my neighborhood, lol), but one incident stands out in my mind and is what made me notice it.

 

The other day during a troll fight I had to leave the fight and run off a ways to heal up before continuing.  I have not had to do that in over a year when fighting only than one at a time, and that's with fighting trolls on a daily basis. 

 

I was surprised but at the time I thought it was just a fluke, like maybe I just ran into a very lucky troll, so I don't recall now exactly which day it was.  My health was going down so fast I at first thought I must have picked up an add, but it turned out I hadn't. 

 

Now though, after seeing that others are having similar experiences just lately, I'm thinking there must be something more to it. 

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From what I have seen, it also seems that some mobs now not only aggro one person (mainly the cart driver) and the cart itself, but on occasion the person in the cart with you as well.  So one hit might be cart, next the driver, then the guest with you, then you again, and so forth.  If you have alts with you, keep an eye on them while in fights with more aggressive mobs.   Can't find the logs now but this happened a few weeks ago.

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3 hours ago, Wurmhole said:

we need this!  Trolls are the toughest normal beast in the game and any noob can survive an encounter easy enough, by running to guards, into a house etc.  There should be a very distinct difference between starter mobs and the hardest.  With good gear, I could solo a brand new alt on a troll and win about 50-60% of the time.  That shouldn't be possible.  With the faster hitting trolls, I bet that survival rate is down to where it should be.

 

Generally I agree with you. The problem is that Wurm has "game design by RNG" (TM) :) And a troll or croc lair just next to the starter deed has quite an effect on new player retention.

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