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Why is macroing on the PvE servers cheating?

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Succinctly put there Aflacduck ... now there is nothing left of this dead horse but but some hide and leather scraps and sticks are little more than wood scrap...just saying

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Just now, ClericGunem said:

Succinctly put there Aflacduck ... now there is nothing left of this dead horse but but some hide and leather scraps and sticks are little more than wood scrap...just saying

Dude I put this horse to rest long ago, and people still continue to kick it.

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Everytime someone Macro's on PVE server... a full local of trees gets cut down ... this causes  a lot of anger throughout the community..... sometimes it throws someone off a bridge so people cant get recover there horse.

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It is one of those weird issues where we think opinions matter more than they do. Right or wrong it is way easier to just look at the issue from the perspective of the person writing the rules as an individual. "I do not like this thing, do not do it." I guess you could argue it goes against the spirit of the game or something as a justification, but it really doesn't need a justification.

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the same people who get angry at macroing in wurm are probably the same children who are angry when someone creates a mob grinder in minecraft because that is not how the game is suppose to be played and youre not suppose to grind arrows from a skeleton spawner.

 

this thread just makes me smile.

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10 minutes ago, IloveWurm said:

the same people who get angry at macroing in wurm are probably the same children who are angry when someone creates a mob grinder in minecraft because that is not how the game is suppose to be played and youre not suppose to grind arrows from a skeleton spawner.

 

this thread just makes me smile.

 

Yeah.... Apples and Oranges....

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Your right Zerocool, because as long as Rolf says making real money from Wurm is OK then there will always be the financial incentive to Macro, regardless of whether or not it's against the rules. With the long timers there is absolutely no incentive NOT to Macro (minus personal reasons not to macro). Our personal reasons for or against don't really matter. (Personally I am against macroing but my opinion doesn't matter when put up against the incentive built in that encourages this behavior, it just proves I am the player that doesn't belong here ;) )

 

Macroing has been going on for years in Wurm and even stupid people like ME can figure out that it's been going on. It's obvious and some Players have admitted it openly. Beating a dead horse on this issue.

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jack just make an audio recording of you sifting through this thread and your audible reaction to each post

i'm pretty sure some people will mark your name in the coming presidential election if this is done

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It's amusing to watch pro-macro players call everyone else nerds and children, when they act like spoiled nerdy little children after they get caught and banned.

 

Irony is delicious.

 

I suppose this troll thread worked without being locked after all, congratulations. Allow me to do my part to add fuel to the flame for fun.

 

Edited by Dairuka
Anyone else notice how most of the pro-macro players are PvP'ers?
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3 hours ago, zethreal said:

 

Negligible. Mine 10k clay while sleeping & sell for 10s. Make 1000 pickaxes to get rares while sleeping & sell for silver. That's not negligible.

 

I'm going to try my best to explain my point, but first let me say, I see where you are coming from, however, I think you guys might be overselling the importance of giving a ###### about macroing. If there was a market, IF, then I would likely agree with you all the way, but there isn't a market.

 

A quick check on the WTB and WTS front pages of Freedom Isles Market forums tells the true story of the Wurm economy, and the myth that anyone macroing ruins that economy. The amount of people selling stuff absolutely swamps the amount of people buying stuff in the forums. In game might be a bit of a better ratio for your cause, but I doubt it. And that's not even counting the merchant threads. Selling 10K clay would put you at a 1s/hr mark even if you used a 4 second action timer and no time to recover stamina. That best case scenario isn't even possible, but since we're talking fabricated numbers here, I think we can let it slide. Now the macroer has to find someone to sell it to, in a market where the sellers outnumber the buyers at a 5:1 estimate. This in itself is a complete waste of time. I submit to you guys that people aren't macroing on PvE servers to make money because there is no money to be made that way. I don't want to even mention the hassle of making a delivery of said goods in this game, considering how lazy a macroer is believed to be.

 

A case in point:

I'm not saying this person is macroing at all. It's just a typical selling post in the WTS forums. They state a "STANDARD" price, and stipulate added pricing for packaging. They also stipulate delivery terms that have multiple options. I ask you, how does someone who macros in game depress a "STANDARD" price attached to goods?

 

The training of skills on a PvE server using macros to bring to the PvP server is an issue that I would have a problem with. So yes, macroing on the PvE server is a bad thing in that aspect. However, the situation I have a problem with is easily solved by separating the two play styles once again, as that was a big mistake to begin with, in my opinion.

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You still don't get it mate.  As I said in an earlier post, cheaters can't be reasoned with.  Not worth the waste of time trying to explain logical economical rationale to a cheater.  I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet...

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>Skill

>Wurm

>Right click

>Left click

>Watch timer go for 20 seconds

 

>Skill

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1 minute ago, Oreo said:

>Skill

>Wurm

>Right click

>Left click

>Watch timer go for 20 seconds

 

>Skill

 

Replace skill with PvP, and you'll know why I choose to PvP only in real PvP games, not Wurm.

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16 minutes ago, Dairuka said:

 

Replace skill with PvP, and you'll know why I choose to PvP only in real PvP games, not Wurm.

 

And now the thread has officially entered the PvP vs PvE portion of the forums.

 

And now it'll get locked.

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27 minutes ago, Pinchaloaf said:

 

And now the thread has officially entered the PvP vs PvE portion of the forums.

 

And now it'll get locked.

Nah man, you sunk that ship long ago in the very beginning.  Don't try to pawn it off on someone else.

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This is the best honey pot thread I've seen in awhile.

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I saw an item index for honey in WU yesterday. Rolf friend, please use an enum.

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2 hours ago, Oreo said:

>Skill

>Wurm

>Right click

>Left click

>Watch timer go for 20 seconds

 

>Skill

 

Someone needs to use keybinds ^_^

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17 hours ago, Pinchaloaf said:

Nevermind then. Delete the thread ffs.

 

Maker of this topic asked  for it to be deleted on first page.  Forum moderators , please do your job.

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17 minutes ago, MarkSilard said:

 

Maker of this topic asked  for it to be deleted on first page.  Forum moderators , please do your job.

 

Hello forum mods?

 

I mean I literally never thought this would stya open for as long as it has but perhaps the forum mods need to be reminded of their own rules 

 

" C ) You may not discuss, post items or links on religion, pornography, illegal drugs or the abuse of such drugs, game exploits, macros, or disallowed game practices as per the game rules. "

 

How this thread EVER got to 4 pages is absolutely beyond me... 

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Except that the discussion of why it would be ok or not to macro is not what that rule is designed for, that should be pretty clear to the average person. The rule is designed for talking about specific macros, such as "oh! I have this macro that does this, but this piece of code I can't get right, any help?" or "here is a link to a site with a great macro script written just for Wurm or games like it: <link>"

 

Talking simply about why macros are banned from usage in Wurm is far from what the rule is intended to be for.

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13 minutes ago, Shrimpiie said:

Except that the discussion of why it would be ok or not to macro is not what that rule is designed for, that should be pretty clear to the average person. The rule is designed for talking about specific macros, such as "oh! I have this macro that does this, but this piece of code I can't get right, any help?" or "here is a link to a site with a great macro script written just for Wurm or games like it: <link>"

 

Talking simply about why macros are banned from usage in Wurm is far from what the rule is intended to be for.

 

Holy crap you're kidding right!?

 

The lead chat mod just defended the breaking of rules o.o

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