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  1. I have four [Enki's Cadence Rollercoaster Derby of 1120] horseshoe trophies (99ql, rare, straw, un-impable) that get decay damage despite of that they supposedly shouldn't. At the event it was stated that they had decoration protection set and would not decay ondeed, only take damage if used equipped on an animal. ("<Enki> Keep in mind the partidipation awards will nto decay, but they WILL take damage if used,., they are for decoration!") I got my four trophies on Enki's Cadence Rollercoaster Derby on 2023-08-31. I keep them in a small chest (runed with RSiV against contents decay; rare, skinned, locked), in a house, on an upkeeped deed; I have never used them equipped. They have 2-4 damage as of posting today. At first I thought it was just that one didn't get the deco protection toggled on by oversight, but by now 4 out of 4 are taking decay, plus several other people have reported theirs also decaying. I was asked to report it as a possible bug of the deco protection failing.
  2. rng is stupid.. This is same meal, prepared at same time, none was picked in inventory, cooked, sliced to portions and eaten from the amphora, no picking up of either of these. RNG decay does it's RNG uncontrollable, unreliable, random decay ticks to random items at random times for random "reasons". Players have no way to control or react to this besides coping with randomness. Or all should walk around with small magic chest in inventory, since lunchbox is useless meme item, it's meant to protect food but if you keep such in inventory it still eventually damages the food, and it's rather quick?(haven't tested this in a while since it never worked as intended) Idea is... lets have decent 1-2 weeks IRL of no decay for food at least.. Current time is roughly 5 days, maybe..(it's rng chance) examine of all 3 Larders are another extreme which used to work, maybe better than intended, but still it only preserves food, what is possible to exploit then? Larders are unreliable and still tick at same nonsense rng high damage ticks, some fresh snow is already 1/5 damage while other is at 1-4% with ql99s.. There's tow to larders.. maintaining the snow, yet that seems not enough to keep them into useful item tier, if somebody wants reliable food storage only option right now are magic chests. Food can not be "repaired" or mended.. any damage tick does flat 10 or more damage to it, which is significant change to nutrition and affinity timers, making useful item into useless. Some qol is needed, a simple lightweight container for food and a drink should also be considered.. lunchbox could use some significant buff. It's a game.. there's good place to put realism and obnoxious bits to force and intrude with high maintenance and annoyance to repetitions. food shouldn't be one of them imo
  3. Does anyone have any insight on how to turn off decay for books, paper, and papyrus? I know there was a fix in WO for this, but that was after their support for WU stopped.
  4. I was asked to please report this. Very quickly, I'd noticed in my LMC (lrg magical chest) that the 25 snowballs that I put back, had very slightly begun to take decay. Roughly 6.0+ being the very worst since yesterday, when I'd not seen this. Also, as a practice I keep perhaps a portion of pizza/casserole there as well and there was no decay on them as yet anyway. tyvm I'd better mention too that the snowballs were not inside any other type container such as satchel or plate.
  5. Lanterns currently have an unrealistic decay rate compared to most any other metal item in the game. (This seems like a useful mod just waiting to be made.) Lantern decay modification suggestion details below: In inventory: No timed decay, only decay through use (light/snuff) like other metal tools. Outside inventory: Timed decay similar to other metal items such as lamps. -On deed/planted -> decay same as lamps (no decay) -On deed/not planted decay same lamps (lessened timed decay) -Off deed -> decay same as lamps & other metal items (timed decay) Thank you for your time & consideration. Sentient Peanutbutter
  6. This is a beautifully complex cooking system, and I love it - but there are a bunch of sub-recipe foods stuffs which are fiddly or time consuming to make which would benefit from an alternative storage method with reduced decay. For example, I can seal my milk and oil and passata in barrels so it will keep, but it'd be really helpful to make better use of existing items (like, say, pottery jars) as longer term storage for things like jams, breadcrumbs and dry pasta and maybe also for less complex snack foods like candy, chocolate and cookie jars. I'm not asking for slower decay of full meals or pizzas or more complex foods with high nutrition and affinity timers - I totally understand why those have higher decay rates without individual wrapping. What I'm asking for is a middle ground solution between liquid storage (forever on deed) and prepped meal storage (hours or days without wrapping) for ingredients which, irl, would last weeks or sometimes months in cupboards so that a) exploring the full breadth of the cooking system and the hundreds of recipes in the game is more rewarding and b) so we can have our kitchen shelves lined with labelled jamjars and biscuit tins and the like. I don't know - if I'm missing on obvious exploit here, please do flag it up - that's not my intention. It'd just be really nice to have additional logical ways to store some part-processed ingredients, outside of a magical chest, that add to the decor and help us cater for guests without offering them mouldy bikkits.
  7. When a deed decays, the buildings and walls dissappear, but the terrain, the terrain remembers. After a server has been out for a while, after villages have come and gone, the dirt walls, pits and plateaus stay. One of the reasons I love new servers is being able to explore new, fresh land. Being able to find untouched land to build my new house. My suggestion; Any tile that has been raised above the height of when the map was originally created, should decay it's excess height over a long period of time This would remove dirtwalls This would not remove mountains unless they were player created Deeded areas should not decay Decay should not occur arround structures Walls/fences are structures Paths are structures Areas around water should have increased decay Water is erosive Land bridges - Reminder: Would still need to be undeeded AND not paths/fences to decay Raised dirt in the water would decay and allow ships to pass again Dirt tiles should have increased decay Stone tiles should have reduced decay Areas around "Should not decay" areas have a less likely chance of decaying governed by a function of distance Prevents jarring edges at the border of "Should not decay" areas The excess dirt should erode to a new location to fill pits
  8. UPDATE: 2022 and this is still happening. THIS IS NOT GOOD. Please fix this. Thanks. Ok, just now, a few minutes ago (7 Sep 2018, 17:33 EST), I moved a Full House pizza to a lit forge to heat it for eating. What happened, at that instant, the entire full house pizza instantly decayed to dust. What I'm saying is I moved a full house pizza that had the affinity I wanted, from a larder to a lit forge, and the pizza (which had ZERO damage) instantly crumbled to dust. WTF! Are we broke? Is this a new glitch... food instantly crumbling to dust? Ok facts in this case: On Independence server. In a building (TeeeBOMB's Tall House) on my deed (Cornersville), of which, I own the building, and I am the mayor of the deed. Upkeep has been paid over 2 months atm. That larder shelf is full of full house pizza's affinity listed. That larder has 100 good snowballs in it's ice box. The full house pizza was for foraging for my character (TeeeBOMB), and had 43+ QL with no damage on it. I made that pizza on 5 Dec 2017... so it is... 275 days old. Like a very very very old horse. So.. I am not sure about what are the correct game mechanics on this. Just my experience. My experience is that meals slowly gather decay when stored in a larder that has snowballs in its icebox. I was quite miffed, on this day, for this pizza, to have it instantly crumble to dust with no warning at all. POOF. Gone. So I post here, to document something new, I just now had happen to me in game. This may be a glitch. It certainly feels like a glitch. If this isn't a glitch, it should be (lol). All the full house pizza's on that shelf, no damage on any of them. I certainly would have noticed had there been any damage on that pizza. Thanks for your time, TeeeBOMB
  9. I put 2 full sealed barrels of honey on my merchant when sealed barrels were first allowed on merchants. The barrel of 13ql honey - now weighs 2kg (it's empty) The barrel of 52ql honey - on removing the seal and checking it, the honey had decayed by around 28 dam The barrels have never been off deed and were sealed before putting on the merchant. This was a test to see if I could sell food liquids on merchants - it appears it is not ready for this. The worry is that until decay reaches 100, the barrels do not show any outward indication of the contents decay - I noticed the 1st barrel was 2kg, but it was only by 'tasting' that I noticed that the QL of the 2nd barrel had dropped to 'acceptable'. I think customers currently need to be aware of this when purchasing liquids in sealed barrels so that they do not purchase decayed products.
  10. I just tonight sent a delivery of 2 full crates of 300 mortar from my deed at U18 - to Greendog at L13 on Deliverance. Upon receipt and checking (as soon as the consignment had arrived) the recipient told me both crates were missing 15 mortar each. It seems wagoner contents are susceptible to very quick off-deed decay. Please would you address this, so that purchased goods do not go missing within the few minutes it takes for the wagoner to complete its delivery? Thanks. Even though the crates were checked straight away in this case at Greendog - it would be good if we could also remove decay on crates that are still sealed, and perhaps reset the decay timer at the point of unsealing, to allow the recipient to get them back to their deed if necessary, and stored away. Your logical endeavors are appreciated!
  11. Hi. Sorry, but I feel like ranting! Somewhat constructively. *gesticulates heatedly and puffs hot steam out of nostrils* We (a group of three wagons) just lost 3 x 12 x 15 dirt/sand when we loaded our wagons on deed and then went to work on a highway, off deed. (large crates from crate racks straight into wagons) This is not right! I don't know the exact moment when the decay tick hit us, but the journey was about 5 minutes and during that time we lost almost two crates of supplies. And it's not the first time. Dirt, sand, mortar, bricks, everything can and has gone POOF! Same thing for ships. Who thinks it's fun to lose several crates of mortar as soon as they leave the safety of the deed? Nobody does! Think about traders, think about those hardworking highway builders. Resource equals more than just money; it's life, it's time, it's... mental health! Please address this issue, I am sure it's not unknown and has been reported before. Thank you! /Shmeric
  12. Hey How comes it that some of the rock shard already have 80DMG after just few days? And how comes it that we have caves ins already. Seems faster then WO.. Can it be a side effect of some of my settings? And is it possible that a forge get destroyed when the tile caved in on it?
  13. People are building highways north and left and often even build guard towers at the roads. There's just this natural enemy of all buildings - decay. Guard towers decay too How about, the Bless spell on towers to decrease the decay rate considerably. Would it break anything, would it unbalance or generate annoyances? Of course it would be possible to Dispel in case anyone wants to bring the decay rate back to normal and let the tower fall.
  14. Furs can be stored in bulk storage bins or whatever, why do we have to store pelts in our characters, banks etc to avoid decay? It seems only logical that fur would decay just af fast as a pelt, they're both animal skin, so...why we cant simply store pelts like any item? I like to sort my stuff in chests, crates, bulk storage bins etc and I would like to store my pelts with all the other stuff I use to improve things. Why not change it? There's no reason at all to keep it this way. It doesn't make sense ('cause furs can be stored like anywhere without decaying so fast, you can also store them on bulk storage and get like zero decay) and it's annoying.
  15. Been here before, but lets look at another application of "The Yellow Potion". How about an alchemy feature that it adds some bonus to other potions such as bloods, oils, and even enchant or enhance it with slow decay/ longevity/ no decay(a value the yellow potion can impart. So, how about the addition of a "Longevity Alchemy" in which the yellow concoction added to another mentioned item adds/gives its longevity or no decay value to the item it is used on or in. With the addition of the Alchemy feature of potions and oils it would be nice to put them up with no decay to worry about...and drive the value of the dreaded yellow potion up. Could be added to materials as well using the function of the new slower decay runes too or a third "add" window option to the creation/crafting window. Re-purpose them to good use or at least increase the desire to want and trade them.
  16. Apparently easter eggs do not decay while on deed. They may be in the list of decorations, so they will never decay. Please check these posts too: (Was asked to re-post it here.)
  17. I have some old chain sets sitting on armour stands inside a building. They've been sititng there for quite a while. I checked them today and the pieces had a lot of damage. Some pieces 16dmg. Does anyone else find the decay of armour sets sitting in armour stands to be somewhat excessive? Good thing I store my good set on my merchant. Although, it sort of defeats the purpose of having armour stands in the game to begin with. I look at it this way. Why should I store armour on a stand if it's going to decay hardcore? I just find the decay makes the item less useful overall in the game. Thoughts anyone?
  18. Assuming: No regard for cost, cast availability, shatter chance etc. That you have a choice between a tool with either perfectly equal WoA+CoC or the same level BoTD Eg. 70woa + 70coc *or* 70botd Each time you use the tool you get a "roll" that determines whether or not each enchant decays, higher enchant= less probable, lower enchant= more probable (this is at least how WU code seems to indicate the "system" works) Which "set up" provides the best probability of avoiding enchant decay over the long haul? Or which would you find preferable and why (remember that cost etc is no object!)? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is my theoretical thinking, using made up numbers but which should show the general "gist"/trend of what we would expect to see: If using BoTD: P(s) [No enchant decay] = 3/4 (75%) P(f) [enchant decay] = 1/4 (25%) If using CoC+Woa Depends somewhat on your definition of "success" and "failure" Overall you have 4 possible outcomes If "success" (situation #1) is defined as "neither decaying" *or alternately* "neither -or- only one decaying" (without regard to which, coc or woa) P(s) ["neither decaying"] = 9/16 (56.25%) P(s) [ "neither -or- only one decaying" (without regard to which, coc or woa) = 9/16+ 6/16 = 15/16 (93.75%) P(f) [ "both woa and coc take decay"] 1/16 = (6.25%) In which case having Coc/Woa greatly increases chance of "success" / lessens risk of "failure" If "success" (situation #2) means that "neither decay" or "neither decay and woa does not decay) P(s) [no decay on both or at least not on woa] = 9/16 +3/16 = 12/16 =3/4= 75% P(f) [both took decay, or woa took decay] = 1/16 + 3/16 = 4/16 =1/4 = 25% In which case you theoretically are starting on even ground, however It is also important to consider the fact that once an enchant decays the probability of further enchant decay increases and the process only snowballs from there. If botd decays..you loose "effect of both coc and woa" at the same time, and increase the likelihood of further decay for both moving forward. Even in "success situation #2" you are no worse off than you are with Botd, but as a consolation prize probably are fairing better over all. (Not putting all your eggs in one basket..) Therefore I would propose that theoretically, in terms of preservation of enchant: WoA+CoC "should" outperform BoTD (keeping the "conditions" set forth at the top of this post in mind) Practically speaking - there are any number of reasons why someone would pick one set up over the other (price, availability, etc..), and "rng" is a cold-hearted unpredictable monster. So what do you all think or propose? (Or have I made some error in my calculations, or overlooked something?) Edit to say I didn't spot any other previous threads on this specific topic, if one already exists I'd certainly take a link. --Also-- I suppose "theoretically" you *could* define success only in that neither woa or coc strength is decreased, and any loss whatsoever is a "failure" .. in which case maybe botd looks to have better numbers. A riskier game.. and I'm not sure if the cumulative effect of "failure" when it does eventually happen outweighs the initial boost.. but maybe.
  19. Honey does not naturally decay. Why go through so many realistic things, ruin food fast if we carry it, add a pantry to store food longer (if we had snow which is more rare than supreme salt for 42 days) and THEN make honey something that decays. Seriously this one just bothers me. I feel i would lose some self respect if i had to suggest something so obvious, so i just want to know why. So Why?
  20. Lanterns in inventory DO decay when they are not used. Could this stop for the unlit lanterns, pretty please.
  21. First off I think bridges are a wonderful addition to the game. I have made use of many that make getting from point A to point B much quicker and it is nice that the Devs decided to lower decay rates and base it on usage, however, I have run into a couple of serious issues with off deed bridges. Although not all builders do this, some make use of buildings for the support structure between the arches of multi-span bridges or as the foundation for the start/end of a bridge. I have in my travels I have come across bridges designed this way that have suffered decay on the floor/ceiling of the buildings that are incorporated into the bridge structure. This essentially renders the bridge useless once it decays completely. Unlike the rest of the bridge, buildings can't be repaired by just anybody. I'm not trying to suggest how bridges should be built, these are just my observations as I travel throughout Wurm. Skyefox Mayor: Albia Estates
  22. Sermons at the Amish Sanctuary Hi Wurmians! Another week hard at work in the kitchens of Wurm, with the in-house testing nearing completion before public testing on a brand new test server! We'll be resetting the test server map for a brand new one prior to the public testing of cooking, something new to explore! (In house testing doesn't mean the system is bug free, and we'll need your help testing it when it goes public, it just means that you're slightly less likely to die when lighting an oven... slightly) Get decorative! As part of our improvements raised by the fountain pan removal, I'm pleased to announce what is most likely the final change brought in to balance out the functionality lost from the removal of these pans. ***Drum roll** With the upcoming cooking update, all decorative items on a deed with over 30 days upkeep will no longer take decay ticks! That's right, decoration items, such as banners, chests, anvils, barrels, statues, etc will all be decay free as long as deed upkeep remains over 30 days! Under 30 days decay ticks will occur as normal, and use of items will damage them too, of course. Hopefully this makes decorating your deed much more enjoyable, and removes the need to spend hours repairing things if you don't play often. Measuring up This weeks teaser covers a new utensil, the Measuring jug! To aid with measuring precise amounts of liquids, a measuring jug tool has been added. This allows a pre-set amount of liquid to be taken out of a larger amount. The measuring jug is a pottery item, with the initial version being made from clay with a hand. Creation mechanics are the same as all other pottery items. To use the measuring jug, r-click on it and select ‘Set volume to’. This allows setting the capacity to any of the following weights: 0.01 kg 0.02 kg 0.05 kg 0.1 kg 0.2 kg 0.5 kg 1kg 2kg 5kg 10kg Note that Wurm uses weights for everything involving cooking; to simplify matters, it is assumed that all liquids have a density of 1 kilogram per litre. Once the volume of the measuring jug has been set, it may be activated and filled from a source of liquid; it will then contain the selected amount (assuming the source contains at least that much). Several iterations (using different volume settings) may be necessary to get the right amount for a particular recipe. The measuring jug must be empty to adjust its volume. Humpty Dump-ty Not forgotten, we're working on setting up an automated system with regularly updated dumps! This means the setup is taking a little longer, but they should be up soon, here's a sneak peak of Xanadu! Community Content. Nicrolis was showing off his graphics capabilities and snapped this awesome screenshot maxed out on graphics with 4k resolution, I have to say it really does show how beautiful and serene Wurm can be! Open the spoiler to check it out. That's it for this week though, we'll have some more news for you next week, so stay tuned! Retrograde & the Wurm team.
  23. Today I had to mine out several tiles in a mine that used to have the floor reinforced. This was a rare event in the past. If the Dev's have to collapse reinforced floor tiles then at least give a warning . Make rotting reinforced tile show maybe . We can not examine the reinforced tiles to see decay, therefore we cant do anything to prevent the collapse. If someone wants to remove the reinforcement of a floor tile it is easily done. Recommend that reinforced tiles prevent collapses on their tile to a much higher degree than they do lately as this is a simple solution. Who gets harmed by reinforced floors not getting collapsed ?
  24. Disclaimer to avoid confusion: This post was written in 2016 and is no longer accurate. Cedar containers no longer slow down the decay of their contents any more than other containers do. I wrote this based on my own in-game testing prior to being on the development team, and while the information was correct at the time, it no longer is, and has not been for quite a while. Conventional wisdom dictates that cedar items decay more slowly, but that cedar containers do nothing to slow down the decay of their contents. Turns out this is actually wrong, and cedar containers do, in fact, slow down the decay of their contents, in addition to cedar items themselves taking less damage. In fact, it stacks. A cedar item, or an item in a cedar container, decays more slowly. A cedar item inside a cedar container decays even more slowly. In fact, the more cedar containers are nested inside each other, the better the effect. For example, an item inside a cedar bucket, inside a cedar large barrel, inside a cedar raft, inside a cedar wagon takes quite significantly less damage than normal. For some background on this and where I got the idea, see here: Of course, the decay code is essentially a basilisk and scares the hell out of me, and empirical data is always a good idea, so I've run a couple tests over the past several days. If you don't care to read lots of numbers and rambling statements, feel free to skip to "Overall Conclusions" at the bottom of this post. Methodology: Removed hundreds of cooked meat from a food storage bin, then placed them in various off-deed, outdoor containers in a secure area. I then checked back a certain time later and noted how much decay was on the meat in each container, and how much (if any) had already completely been destroyed due to 100+ decay damage. Meat QL is not quite the same from test to test, so specific decay values can't really be compared between them. Container QL does not matter, but is listed anyway for the sake of completeness, and I've tried to use roughly equivalent QL of containers anyway. Damage is 0 when not specified. Also note: "Cedar count" below means how many containers in the chain are cedar. For example, meat inside a cedar bucket inside a firwood raft inside a cedar caravel would have a cedar count of 2. Test 1: Two barrels, one cedar and one fir, placed on the ground off-deed and outdoors. Each barrel contains one cedar bucket, three cotton satchels, and the rest of the barrel filled with meat. Initial meat QL not recorded but was likely 46.61QL. Meat left to ripen for approximately 2 or 3 days (not certain; all that's important is all the meat in this test decayed for the same amount of time). Please note that average damage of meat inside a container may be very misleading if some of the meat has already decayed away entirely, since those are not factored into the average; a container's meat stack may have significantly more decay than another even with lower average damage, if it has suffered more total loss of meat items, since the average is only the average damage of REMAINING meat in the stack. Results: Cedar Barrel (41.65 QL) 61 meat (Cedar count: 1, avg. 37.53 dmg): 7 - 0 dmg, 11 - 8.58 dmg, 9 - 17.97 dmg, 8 - 42.91 dmg, 17 - 57.94 dmg, 9 - 78.34 dmg, 0 destroyed Cedar Small Bucket (30.93 QL) 47 meat (Cedar count: 2, avg. 18.30 dmg): 13 - 0 dmg, 11 - 8.58 dmg, 8 - 25.74 dmg, 15 - 37.30 dmg, 0 destroyed Cotton Satchel (10.49 QL) 71 meat (Cedar count: 1, avg. 28.78 dmg): 8 - 0 dmg, 23 - 8.58 dmg, 13 - 17.97 dmg, 9 - 42.91 damage, 9 - 57.94 dmg, 0 destroyed Cotton Satchel (10.49 QL) 71 meat (Cedar count: 1, avg. 33.66 dmg): 9 - 0 dmg, 16 - 8.58 dmg, 9 - 17.97 dmg, 13 - 42.91 dmg, 17 - 57.94 dmg, 7 - 78.34 dmg, 0 destroyed Cotton Satchel (10.49 QL) 71 meat (Cedar count: 1, avg. 37.98 dmg): 9 - 0 dmg, 16 - 8.58 dmg, 6 - 17.97 dmg, 6 - 42.91 dmg, 23 - 57.94 dmg, 11 - 78.34 dmg, 0 destroyed Fir Barrel (42.37 QL) 43 meat (Cedar count: 0, avg. of remaining 39.13 dmg): 3 - 0 dmg, 11 - 8.58 dmg, 7 - 17.97 dmg, 8 - 28.43 dmg, 4 - 68.85 dmg, 10 - 96.03 dmg, 18 destroyed (29.5% loss) Cedar Small Bucket (31.70 QL) 47 meat (Cedar count: 1, avg. 30.95 dmg): 10 - 0 dmg, 12 - 8.58 dmg, 5 - 17.97 dmg, 4 - 42.91 dmg, 8 - 57.94 dmg, 8 - 78.34 dmg, 0 destroyed Cotton Satchel (10.49 QL) 56 meat (Cedar count: 0, avg. of remaining 37.20 dmg): 5 - 0 dmg, 15 - 8.58 dmg, 13 - 17.97 dmg, 6 - 28.43 dmg, 3 - 68.65 dmg, 14 - 96.03 dmg, 15 destroyed (21.1% loss) Cotton Satchel (10.49 QL) 57 meat (Cedar count: 0, avg. of remaining 38.36 dmg): 8 - 0 dmg, 13 - 8.58 dmg, 13 - 17.97 dmg, 3 - 28.43 dmg, 6 - 68.65 dmg, 14 - 96.03 dmg, 14 destroyed (19.7% loss) Cotton Satchel (10.49 QL) 49 meat (Cedar count: 0, avg. of remaining 35.59 dmg): 6 - 0 dmg, 12 - 8.58 dmg, 10 - 17.97 dmg, 7 - 28.43 dmg, 3 - 68.65 dmg, 11 - 96.03 dmg, 22 destroyed (31.0% loss) Tentative conclusions from test 1: Time between decay damage ticks is somewhat highly randomized. Higher sample size/more tests needed to determine if time between decay ticks is influenced by cedar. Damage due to a single decay tick is entirely deterministic, as only certain values were encountered. Damage amount definitely appears to depend on how many cedar containers "deep" an item is stored within (including, presumably, the item itself being cedar). For example, the same damage "steps" are encountered in the meat stack inside a cotton satchel inside a cedar barrel, as encountered in the meat stack inside a cedar bucket inside a fir barrel, because each has a single cedar container somewhere up the chain (cedar count: 1). Meanwhile, the meat stack inside the cedar bucket inside a cedar barrel (cedar count: 2) has different values from the rest. Cedar containers definitely slow decay. With a sample size of a few hundred meat, and the amount of consistency we see here, this is essentially certain. The only meat stacks with any totally-lost items are ones with a cedar count of 0. Multiple nested cedar containers certainly seem to slow decay further. Stacks with a cedar count greater of 2 seem to take less damage on average than stacks with a cedar count of 1, and the damage tick sizes are different in magnitude (see #2 above), but more testing is needed. These results were pretty encouraging, so I decided to do another test. Test 2: Testing to see results of more varied cedar container nesting. One fir barrel placed on the ground off-deed and outdoors, containing three cotton satchels filled with meat. A cedar wagon also parked nearby, containing: 85 meat and one cedar raft. Cedar raft inside wagon contains three cedar buckets and three cotton satchels, all filled with meat. Each barrel contains one cedar bucket, three cotton satchels, and the rest of the barrel filled with meat. Initial meat QL equal to 45.21. Meat left to ripen for approximately 3 days, 18 hours. Please note in this test that the starting meat QL is not the same as in the prior test, and it was left to decay for a longer period, so please do not compare numbers between the two tests! Don't do it! I mean it! Fir Barrel (42.37 QL, 2.0 dmg) Cotton Satchel (10.49 QL, 9.5 dmg) 35 meat (Cedar count: 0, avg. of remaining 37.52 dmg): 1 - 0 dmg, 2 - 8.85 dmg, 5 - 18.55 dmg, 7 - 29.42 dmg, 11 - 41.95 dmg, 8 - 57.19 dmg, 1 - 77.86 dmg, 36 destroyed (50.7% loss) Cotton Satchel (10.49 QL, 9.5 dmg) 39 meat (Cedar count: 0, avg. of remaining 39.36 dmg): 3 - 8.85 dmg, 6 - 18.55 dmg, 12 - 29.42 dmg, 4 - 41.95 dmg, 10 - 57.19 dmg, 1 - 70.78 dmg, 3 - 77.86 dmg, 32 destroyed (45.1% loss) Cotton Satchel (10.09 QL, 9.9 dmg) 31 meat (Cedar count: 0, avg. of remaining 33.54 dmg): 2 - 8.85 dmg, 4 - 18.55 dmg, 15 - 29.42 dmg, 7 - 41.95 dmg, 1 - 57.19 dmg, 2 - 77.86 dmg, 40 destroyed (56.3% loss) Cedar Wagon (40.482 QL, 7.54 dmg) 70 meat (Cedar count: 1, avg. of remaining 43.10 dmg): 2 - 0 dmg, 14 - 8.85 dmg, 11 - 18.55 dmg, 7 - 29.42 dmg, 3 - 41.95 dmg, 3 - 44.24 dmg, 11 - 60.10 dmg, 19 - 82.28 dmg, 15 destroyed (17.6% loss) Cedar Raft (16.72 QL) Cedar Bucket (30.93 QL) 47 meat (Cedar count: 3, avg. 17.95 dmg): 9 - 0 dmg, 12 - 8.85 dmg, 5 - 17.69 dmg, 4 - 18.55 dmg, 11 - 28.44 dmg, 6 - 40.81 dmg, 0 destroyed Cedar Bucket (31.82 QL) 47 meat (Cedar count: 3, avg. 20.15 dmg): 3 - 0 dmg, 12 - 8.85 dmg, 9 - 17.69 dmg, 6 - 18.55 dmg, 10 - 28.44 dmg, 7 - 40.81 dmg, 0 destroyed Cedar Bucket (31.70 QL) 47 meat (Cedar count: 3, avg. 18.11 dmg): 8 - 0 dmg, 10 - 8.85 dmg, 6 - 17.69 dmg, 6 - 18.55 dmg, 12 - 28.44 dmg, 5 - 40.81 dmg, 0 destroyed Cotton Satchel (10.49 QL) 71 meat (Cedar count: 2, avg. 23.96 dmg): 8 - 0 dmg, 22 - 8.85 dmg, 10 - 18.55 dmg, 6 - 26.54 dmg, 3 - 29.42 dmg, 9 - 38.59 dmg, 11 - 52.99 dmg, 2 - 71.81 dmg, 0 destroyed Cotton Satchel (10.49 QL) 71 meat (Cedar count: 2, avg. 33.68 dmg): 2 - 0 dmg, 11 - 8.85 dmg, 14 - 18.55 dmg, 5 - 26.54 dmg, 3 - 29.42 dmg, 17 - 38.59 dmg, 11 - 52.99 dmg, 8 - 71.81 dmg, 0 destroyed Cotton Satchel (10.49 QL) 71 meat (Cedar count: 2, avg. 25.94 dmg): 7 - 0 dmg, 15 - 8.85 dmg, 14 - 18.55 dmg, 4 - 26.54 dmg, 9 - 29.42 dmg, 10 - 38.59 dmg, 9 - 52.99 dmg, 3 - 71.81 dmg, 0 destroyed Tentative conclusions from test 2: Conclusions from test 1 seem to have held water. Higher cedar count definitely seems to matter, possibly without bound. Meat stacks with cedar count 0 suffered much more item loss than meat stacks with cedar count 1. Stacks with cedar count of 2 or 3 suffered no item loss, but every stack with cedar count 2 suffered greater total damage, and greater maximum damage on any single item, than every stack with cedar count 3. More testing may still be necessary to determine if time between decay ticks is affected by cedar count. That was a lot of numbers and words to type, so... let's finish this up, shall we? Overall conclusions: Cedar containers slow down the decay of their contents. The more cedar containers an item is nested in, going all the way up to the highest parent container, the more the decay of that item is slowed. For example, an item inside a cedar bucket, inside a willow raft, inside a cedar knarr (2 cedar containers), will decay more slowly than an item inside a cedar bucket in inventory, a birch knarr, etc. (1 cedar container). If you want to slow decay on an item but don't have a magical chest, you can't bank it, and you can't or don't want to put it in the inventory of yourself or a storage alt, your best bet is probably to nest as many cedar containers as possible ([[[[[Bucket] Large Barrel] Raft] Huge Tub] Vehicle]?), inside a building, on-deed. Amphorae also slow decay of contents, as confirmed by staff (see linked post above). According to WU code, the effect is the same in magnitude as it is for a cedar wooden container, and implemented the same way, so you can still benefit from nesting an amphora inside a cedar container or vice versa. I may test to verify this in the future. Cedar is, more than ever, the obvious choice for pretty much anything that serves as a container, whether it's a ship, a chest, a barrel, or anything else you can make out of wood. Almond milk, while vegan-friendly and not unhealthy, should not be construed as a nutritional replacement for animal milk, as the former is lacking in many important nutrients found in the latter, especially protein content. I am a very tired man.
  25. it would be very helpful if a mod could be custom created to speed up decaying items and creature corpses off deed. This would be great for polling timers taking so long from the clutter of random junk left laying around including dirt piles, locks, tree stumps, dead animals... etc.. Might be helpful to create a .properties for items admins want to whitelist from the increased rate (if possible) Thanks in advance.