Nestangol

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  1. I don't usually get involved with "politics" of games and I frankly don't care who is who and the big yahoos in the game. Still to me this case sounds like the usual old-timers and/or big-time players walking over someone smaller than them. And that is something I don't like. I read the original topic, when it was posted and now this after-math as well. My problem with this whole thing is: the guy who was accused of stealing unique was never one who found it. He was called in to help pen the unique but instead of helping ended up owning it and distributing loot to whoever he pleased. Now in real life, imagine you need some help to buy yourself a house or move your car and the guy you asked to help, ends up owning it. You think they were friend? You think they were a decent person? Me, I'm no saint, but if I had ever unintentionally caused a problem to someone (like accidentally penning the unique), I would go out of my way to repair and repay it. Even if the offended party was being a ######-head about it. I don't see any of that attitude in this case. Only excuses to avoid any consequences for stealing. And people who go along with it are no better themselves. Sorry, I know I piss off a lot of people with this and doing it with my main character will hurt my game, but still. If you protect a thief, you are not any better than the thief themselves is. I can understand standing up for your friends, but if they do something wrong, you help them to see the mistake and correct it, not help them to hide or benefit from it! - Nestangol
  2. Thanks for reply. I rechecked wurmpedia and there is entry for blue dragon. No blue drake or red drake. New change? or just wurmpedia outdated? edit: Nvm, I see the info above my post now.
  3. Bug fix: Fix to prevent most unique creatures from spawning inside a deed. New dragon types use a different spawn mechanic and may still spawn in a village. Pretty sure this does not mean we got new dragon types just now. Hatchlings? or what is this referring to? I've only played this game 2-3 years and can't really recollect new dragon types. Then again, I don't usually pay attention to them unless they park at my backyard.
  4. Thanks Shrimpiie for organizing this. Not at all sure I will attend this one, but if so, can help with some skills (bs, cas, js, carp, maybe fc, masonry. but don't list me as I can't guarantee attending) The question I have is about Archery competition. Not being hawkeye myself, I'm wondering. As we have separate skill for short/medium/long bows. Is there/should there be separate competition for each type of bow? Or does it not matter? Or if it does matter what your skill in type of bow is and there is only one type used, which one is it? I'm asking just for the sake of clarity, as that is the one competition I will definitely not participate in, too dangerous for poor by-standers if I did, lol.
  5. bees

    Well, I'm just now reading some of forumthreads I should have read before. So it seems, I cut my honey and wax production by planting flowers close to my beehives... But doesn't matter too much. This was one of those projects that took way too many hours (as there was absolutely no beehives anywhere near me (no, did not climb every mountaintop, some of them could still have hives) and took lot of hiking to find the ones I got) for no gain until yesterday. Right now I'm just happy to have the hives at home and IF they survive winter, will concentrate more on beekeeping next Wurm spring. But in any case, thanks JudusX for your comment, it did get me to read right stuff, now I know better.
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    The wild hives I checked did have small increase in wax and honey. Can't say about domestic hives of course, since they are too new.
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    Just an update, as I did previously report my beehive turned out empty when transported to deed. I did manage to bring 2 beehives successfully to my home(s) yesterday. From same area as unsuccessful attempt earlier. Also my third domestic hive next to busy beehive in the wild had been occupied (could not bring it home yet, as I was just riding past and you need to load active hive, but will try today or tomorrow). So, a good sign for the update having fixed the issue. Of course I could have just gotten lucky this time, as the problem was not hitting everyone every time before. But anyway thumbs up from me, hopefully the issue is now solved.
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    At least in my case not possible. My bees disappeared at the last few tiles of the way. They were still there when I loaded the hive into wagon. That last stretch took less than 2 minutes inside my own deed. And I have only 2 neighbors, not close and they don't have any hives. (And just in case, not even possible to have migrated anywhere along the way and game just not telling me that before unloading last time. Because whole trip was wilderness, not anywhere close to any deeds or hives at any point of trip.)
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    I had placed sugar in my built hive several days before, just to see if it made any difference for migration. Now that you asked, I don't think there was any sugar left when I started transporting it. But there was honey and beeswax. I didn't note down the amounts as I didn't think it would matter for moving it. But the beehive had 0.45 honey and 0.2 beeswax after unloading it last time.
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    Well. This wild beehive I found next day after update. Today, the bees had finally moved to my domestic hive (wild hive ql39, domestic ql52). So off to home with it. And this is what happened: [12:58:35] You ride on the wagon as the driver. [13:03:03] You finish loading the active bee hive. [15:10:56] You finish unloading the active bee hive from the wagon. [15:11:23] You board on the knarr as the captain. (note: no sailing between servers, just short distance inside Xanadu) [15:11:32] You finish loading the active bee hive. [15:34:37] You finish unloading the active bee hive from the knarr. [15:34:41] You start to load the active bee hive. (loading it into my wagon) [15:34:45] You finish loading the active bee hive. (so it still had bees there when finished loading) [15:36:41] You start to unload the empty bee hive from the wagon. [15:36:41] You finish unloading the empty bee hive from the wagon. I have found 3 other beehives in wild as well, but all of them in awful travel from my place. 2 of the 3 are noisy, so i'm having domestic hives at them now, hoping for 2nd queen migrating, so if this bug hits again, at least wild hive would still be left for another try. - Nestangol
  11. So there is one more chapter for this Dragon slaying. So here is the story of what happened behind the scenes and why. When the time came for slaying, I was sick. I had fever, headache and was extremely tired. But so many people had already arrived and more were on the way, so canceling or postponing was not an option. Of course I could have handed reigns of running it to someone else. Probably should have. But while I have no problem admitting mistake and correcting it, I do have a problem admitting I'm too weak to do something. Quitting was not an option. And I still felt confident I could do it just fine. Apart from starting to be real tired when I finished list of slayers at the gate permissions (and didn't notice Vannin was not supposed to be on the list), things went fine until the end of actual slaying. Great people helping with things and adrenaline kept me clear-headed enough. After that I had serious brain meltdown. Frankly, I barely remember anything from that on. Re-reading the logs helped to remember more. Anyway, I still think the way I was going to do loot rolls, would have been good, IF it worked the way I planned. I had planned to put it on spreadsheet on googledocs and share the link so everyone can see. I could have updated it live after every roll. Very fast and neat and no need for rolling numbers again (as you see, 5,6 and 33 were all rolled twice, requiring re-rolls if everyone was kept in the pool). Below is a little screen shot how it should have looked. Second post in this thread has the link to whole Correct list of loot. But as it goes Mr. Murphy intervened. I was very happy, how little lag I had and how smooth my computer was working. Until I tried to open spreadsheet. I found out my computer refused to open or close anything. I had accidentally left forum post of slaying open, so I was able to update the post there, but that was all. I didn't dare to try rebooting, not knowing how long it would have taken. All-in-all, I decided I can do it with pen and paper while I keep rolling and posting the results. Which normally I could do very easily. I'm an old tabletop-rpg GM, occasionally a player too and have been playing around with this type of thing pretty much all my life. Should have been very easy for me to do. Turns out I couldn't get things right. It was very weird feeling of almost like not being there at all and not understanding what was going on around me. But by then I had already started rolling by my original plan. So I didn't see that I could go back to drawing from the original list of 40. Which of course I could have, after figuring out who was the number 33/39. But, well, I guess you get the point. Logic was not really with me anymore, I just tried to get it done right the only way I was able to focus on. Complete tunnel vision. So I rolled the numbers and then checked the list. After all time spent on it, I was sure I got it right. I mean, I checked it at least twice...maybe three times, who knows... And I never make mistakes in things like that. So I believed I got it right and announced the winners, gave things to those who were still there and mailed the rest. But somehow I made not just one, but altogether 3 errors. Luckily, these errors should be easy enough to fix. I will be sending replacement items to those who should have won with the drawn numbers, as soon as I get my hands on those items. (Tooth for Helorn, Hammer for Thorgot and Water skin with source should have gone to Wulfmaer) Those who got items instead of these three, please keep them. I'm trying to reach people involved myself, but I may not be online much and/or at same time with them. So if they can pm me on forums, that might be best option for now. While this was mostly about having a community event and great experience for everyone, I do feel it extremely important to get the loot right. Truth is, without loot, not so many people would go for unique hunts or rifts. We need to keep it always clean and fair. In any case, for me this dragon slaying was absolutely the best experience in Wurm Online so far. (Also the worst after slaying, but well... no permanent damage done, so it's ok.) As final words on this, I'm posting this so you'll be able to see what happened from my point of view and someone else running their first slaying might be able to avoid mistakes I made. (Always name backup person to take over if you can't continue.) If I ever find another unique, it will be public event again. Thank you everyone who helped and special thanks Evening for the extra gifts for loot. -Nestangol hmm, another edit. I did also have this issue of dragon skull that was accidentally rolled for Vannin who was not supposed to be in loot list. So I have come to the decision of keeping it for myself (given that I originally claimed I would roll one item for myself (which I did not do back then) and the usual custom of finder/organizer usually taking the first pick anyway, it seems fair enough.) All in all, I don't want to drag the issue of loot any further, so I'll keep it. Hermit's Hunting lodge was always meant to be permanent deed, not just for the dragon. (Deed will be disbanded so I can move it a little, but then redone.) And I have few ideas for the skull already. Need to test if those ideas can be done.
  12. Hermit's hunting lodge is the right place. And on the map it is the blue circle. - Nestangol
  13. Thank you for all the replies so far. And Hordern, that sounds great to me. I hope you can make it around there in time. Again apology for inconvenient timing for everyone, but seems the only real possibility for quite a while. - Nestangol
  14. Dragon is dead thank you everyone. Edit: about the loot, look at the bottom of the post. I will leave this here in it's entirety for archive purposes. Here is list of loot: rare green dragon strange bone green dragon skull green dragon tooth green dragon eye green dragon gland corpse of green dragon and the items Evening gave for to be shared 1ql steel shovel 84coc rare 50ql oakenwood fruit press 88ql saddle with 82 woa 93ql Soft cap (xtmas hat) 6ql iron carver with 90coc Snow Lantern 30ql iron hammer with 92coc and a water skin with 2.5kg Source (2500 karma) List of figthing group for loot roll 1. Alkhadias 2 Amory 3 Annyil 4 Bigwyrm 5 Cyborg 6 Ellan 7 Explora 8 Fatynoob 9 Fearil 10 Frox 11 Gatling 12 Gunnbjorn 13 Realhampsterman 14 Helorn 15 Hord 16 Ibex 17 Januszsram 18 Kadmint 19 Kasumi 20 Kixilex 21 Kratk 22 Lockedbob 23 Majqo 24 Merina 25 Motly 26 Nicedreams 27 Nilars 28 Ninjarubberduck 29 Noizhead 30 Sankara 31 Tamat 32 Thorgot 33 Tuga 34 Vannin 35 Vasco 36 Wiluss 37 Wulfmaer 38 Xcaliber 39 Zorako 40 Zaj 40 people Ok here is list of all winnings. I sincerely apologize for taking that long. I though it would be fast to roll every item by removing winners from list, so 2nd item went to 33/39 in loot roll, next for 13/38. Turns out i could not keep the list updated. My bad. Will not make it this way again. (To clarify, after fight my computer was so laggy, couldn't do much anything. I was only able to update forum post, as I already had it open. Couldn't open any new programs or close. So I ended up rolling the numbers in chat and checking the results with pen and paper.) Next time I guess it will be the old roll with same numbers and re-roll any that already won. Obviously will be faster and also easier for people to follow. The other thing is, Vannin was not supposed to be on the list. I wrote it down after forum posts for people signing up. I did check everyone going in and my list. But missed the fact Vannin was Ellan's alt sitting at docks and it was left there. Totally not Ellan's fault, he did say it in local, but with all the message-madness I failed to see it. So that leaves a question, what happens to the skull that Vannin won? Some people told me I should keep it. Well, I had excluded myself from all the rolls, so more people could get something. There hasn't been that many public slayings around and many were there in their first slaying as fighters. So I don't know, maybe I could replace myself to Vannin and keep it, maybe I will make some other public draw for it from those who didn't win anything yet from this fight. Need to rest before I decide. But I'm just putting this here, so people will not accuse Ellan/Vannin of double-dipping. He did not try that, it was my fault entirely. But the winners are as follows (After name is the roll numbers) rare bone for Cyborg 5/40 skull for Vannin 33/39 tooth for Real Hampsterman 13/38 eye for Nilars 25/37 gland for Explora 6/36 corpse for Fearil 7/35 Evenings gifted items shovel for Zorako 33/34 fruit press for Merina 20/33 saddle for Fatynoob 6/32 xmas hat for Ellan 5/31 carver for Hord 9/30 snow lantern for Annyil 3/29 hammer for Tuga 22/28 water skin with source to Xcaliber 25/27 All that were still at the scene after I got loot sorted out, have been given their winnings and the rest have been mailed to you. Except the dragon skull, which still awaits my decision. Sorry for the mess with loot, but hope everyone enjoyed. Fight was great, huge thanks for everyone involved, especially priests. I learned a lot and next time will go much smoother. - Nestangol EDIT: Loot distribution went wrong. Why? What was going on? I will explain that in separate reply to this thread (should be end of 2nd or beginning of 3rd page). So below I will post a link to google docs that show how the loot should have been. Of course I will not be wanting anything back from those who got their prices after I announced the results. I will be giving replacements for those 3 that were not given their prices at the time. (Helorn should have gotten a teeth (afaik, no other value than alchemy/healing cover), Thorgot should have gotten hammer and Wulfmaer should have gotten the waterskin with source. Feel free to pm me in forums or in game if I don't reach you first.) edit again: I have gotten contact with all three and delivered the replacements, so loot issue is satisfactorily concluded. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c7E5vJWY3Y1lTmBN0-9VzVNFXllZ7u9JvRdPvc9ngDY/edit?usp=sharing Sorry for any inconvenience.
  15. There's been requests for public slayings of dragons. So when I found one, I wanted it public. So here we go. In middle parts of Xanadu. Plenty of travelling for everyone, but there is a dragon in the end. Loot will be public rolls for all of the fighters. (I will roll one item for myself and all the other loot will go for slayers.) Participating in killing will require 70+ fs. Preferably fighters would sign up in advance too. Blood and scale of course for everyone premium at the vicinity. Location is at M12. So preferable way for most would be by boat through the canal at SE end of Hammer Lake. Prepare for long sailing from server border. That is a true Xanadu sailing experience There's plenty of room for boats at coast and it seems alts would be within local from the water. The other way is by horse. There is side road starting from Linton - Lormere highway (if coming from Lormere direction it is after Crater of Dawn Farms. Highway turns north and next time it turns west, there is fighting doll and now green lamps to show the side road to east. From Linton direction you'll see the doll and lamps going on when road turns south). I'm adding temporary gravel road for last part. All places you need to turn to different road from the highway onward will be marked with green lamps on both sides.) edit: corrected directions. Going to pen some wild horses for those arriving by boat. Not sure on amounts yet. But there is often big herds of horses swimming in the lake anyway. Food etc. will be available for those who come early. No beds yet, but looking into that as well. Just depends how much time i have to actually play. ----- Some more info to the above. While to participate in actual killing 70+ FS is the only requirement, as it can be verified by wearing the title (mercenary). To be able to actually wound the dragon, you should also have high skill in your chosen weapon, recommend at least 40+, the higher the better of course. High ql weapon (2h) at least 70ql. High ql plate armor preferred, but at least 70+ chain armor a must. On loot: items will be rolled randomly. I will roll one item for myself from all available loot. Rest of loot is randomly rolled among the slayers. Every person may win only one item/charge. So any item with multiple charges will only be given one charge per winner. As it is impossible for me to guarantee the passing of item from one winner to another for their charge, I'm suggesting following: Any multiple charge item will be put up on an auction at forum and the sales amount will be divided to the winners. Two possible exception for this: 1. if someone makes an offer after the drawing of winners and can pay the amount in cash AND every one of the winners agrees to the price (one person disagreeing or unreachable (logged out/disconnected/afk forever...) means, no deal and the item goes for auction). If deal is reached, then the money will be divided for the winners of the charges right away. 2. If all the winners of a charge know and trust each other and would rather handle the item themselves than auction it: If every winner of those charges confirms separately and publicly that they agree to that and all together name the person I should give the item to, then fine with me. The item is then handed to the named recipient with full responsibility of the item. But again one winner not agreeing or not able to confirm their agreement, means no deal and item is auctioned and silvers shared to winners after that. Making sure I have list of loot to be shared and all candidates for it may take some time, especially with all the lag included in unique slayings. So expect some delay after fight before the draw for winners can commence. --- Finally to add. Original intention was to arrange this on weekend, but last weekend would not have given any time for people to prepare. Next weekend and couple after that, I cannot guarantee being online at a specific time. So this Thursday will have to do. Welcome everyone, slayers and watchers. - Nestangol