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Ah, PVP people, making the game look bad since 2006 *shrug*

wow....okay...so let me get this straight....not only did you get the unique "stolen" by someone you thought you could trust, by deeding over it while you just worked on a deed stake. You also get accused of greedyness, after he deeded it, decided over all the rules including when the slaying happens, took most of the items and left you only the choice of one item and then deciding to want a whole tome. Then getting ridiculed for not knowing how that tome works (as if everyone has to know everything) and THEN also, which seems something everyone forgets here, being told that they have to cross over to chaos to be able to get that charge! (suspicious much?) THEN in this topic people rub it in by saying "deed it or loose it" and "seems you weren't fit to lead a unique hunt" etc etc. Making it seems as if everyone who is finding a unique and wants to somehow benefit from it and be "allowed" to lead a unique hunt, needs to be perfectly prepared at all times, needs to know how every other unique hunt before was handled AND needs to have had experience in unique hunting before. (Really?!) So.....and THEN it goes even further by trying to make it look as if the ones who found the unique were the ones in the wrong all along, even though all the facts speak for their side? I'm sorry you guys....it seems you got into a horrible mix of "chaos" eliteism and unique hunt madness. And now they are trying to cover their doings by obfuscating their deeds by trying to lead the conversation in their favor, into a direction that has nothing to do with your actual complaint. (by making everything about how you didn't just want a charge from the tome....and crossing to chaos for that)

Classic Chaos. Freedom gets a feature they wanted exclusivity on, "Carebears should come to Chaos and face the risk!!!!!". Unique spawns on Freedom, Chaos swarms at it for the safe loot.

I see people that stole a unique, try to downplay their own misdeeds with some nonsense about tomes.

TIL that Nerco is elected PvP leader of JK....smh.

Oh you thanked her for finding it so you can steal it. What a gentleman!

Kinda funny, how the finder of the goblin is now being shown as "greedy". While JK simply took advantage of her.. motivated by greed.

Really ugly. Pvp people should have enough uniques on their own server. On Deli we do what we can to prevent this and we do take our uniques back also when something like the described happens. Show some style, JK.

Just goes to show the poor game mechanics setup for Uniques. They should be unable to be trapped in any way. Make them able to walk through mine doors, fencing, walls, houses, deep water, etc. Make deeds unable to be placed over them. Let them roam the lands doing no damage to anything, as well as not attacking anyone until attacked. They should just be dumb brute wanderers and only attack those who attack them. Then they will lock onto each individual and pursue them to the ends of the servers until they either kill that person or are killed themselves. This way everyone will have a fair chance of being killed or watching others being killed. No more exclusivity can be applied to them but rather anyone can either join or not at any time. Equal deaths to all! Done! =Ayes=

I am sorry, but it's time to change how unique loot distribution works. There is too much potential for abuse here and there will always be players who will take advantage of this. This will never change. So, the only way to combat this is to change the mechanics of loot distribution. There are already many players who are not willing to go to unique slayings because of this problem, even if the uniques happen to spawn on their own server. This is unfortunate, because it's a wonderful feature put into the game by the developers but now many players won't experience it because they are not willing to subject themselves to just being pawns in some group's machinations. Yes, I know there have been unique slayings where everything was fair and which were led by great leaders. I salute you and hope your names spread so that everyone knows who to follow. But nearly every two months there is some saga about a slaying that didn't happen properly and to me the only way to reclaim this feature of the game is to change the mechanics of loot distribution.

I won't bother taking a side here as I'll never be able to know the full story and be 100/100 sure whether everything that I have learned is true. However I need to comment on the offer which involved sailing to Chaos for a charge as it looks like that not everyone on Chaos understands how Freedom-psychology or how PvP to PvE trading can work. No Freedomer goes to Chaos for any kind of business unless they know the persons involved in it well, because they will always suspect possible foul play against them (it happens no matter if it is well justified or not). Even if they trust the other party no one can guarantee their safety here, as if they have bad luck their boat can still be ambushed by an enemy boat (not to mention that if the Freedomer has already told all his buddies of the trip the chances of such a thing happening will just go up). If any chaos-based folks want to make a deal involving a unique charge they can just mail it to the recipient on Freedom right after using the rest of he charges wherever they want. It is actually a frequently used method of tome-charge trading. To anyone who will rush to say that cross kingdom mail doesn't work my answer is: I know, but even the smallest kingdoms on Chaos have managed to smuggle and sell glimmer weapons from Chaos to Freedom in the past, so it has been proven that bringing such stuff back to Freedom is perfectly possible. Sure it takes more effort but it is still the only realistic way to do this. Just my 2c regarding any type of business between Freedomers and Chaos people.

Hmmm. The reason originally given was that they caused a problem with the programming. Now it is because of some people that were jealous? Guess it all comes out in the end when people forget what they said in the beginning. Good to know. Replacement please? Can we please find out what the item is that is being worked on for this functionality? Many of us are trying to make plans and would like for those plans to include whatever the replacement will be.

the guy has an animated pikachu avatar, whats not to trust?

Hmm... <opens his todo list and writes something>

I mean, I understand JK PoV, but you did have one of your members or whatever you call them place a deed down on someone else's unique claim. While the deed it or loose it rule applies, it's pretty frown upon. Your "king" seems to enjoy trolling people immensely and baiting them. Speaking from experience you guys could elect a better leader and seriously should think about the ramifications of your kingdom's actions in the future to avoid senseless drama. This is generally a unpleasant circumstance for all involved. I do think your kingdom should rethink it's decision however, and just compensate Davih and his girlfriend. Newbies shouldn't be trolled like this. Damaging the community hurts everyone, less money goes to fund the game. Less subscribers etc. Think you can figure out the rest here.

tldr for every1 else

PLES CLOSE

I would love to see decay removed or reduced greatly on deeds.

I don't like the change at all nor do I really care if someone wants to bring 2 or 4 sets of armor to match their 4 weapons, their choice to carry and potentially lose But all I can say is it's god awful annoying in pve, I don't carry two armor sets to hunt, I just hunt naked but when a suprise nogump comes you need armor to counter the ridiculously overpowered stuns but that one second of combat with a troll you passed while backing off to get armor on means you have to run in circles avoiding entering combat while you run out your timers. doesn't feel like improving any gameplay

Oh please, i don't want to derail, but original reason for nerfing hell horses was speed calculations, and then in another thread we got the "balance issues" answer, and then in original thread we heard that both reasons were valid, but who knows why we were told the first in one thread and the second in the other and also many hours apart from each other. They were deemed problematic because somebody woke up and decided so. WTS salt, a lot of it When these are deleted, i for sure would love some decay reduction (or removal) for everybody.

We don't like our stuff decaying on our deeds. It is bad enough it takes more than an hour to repair everything in normal chests, coffins, carts and everywhere else we stuff items not protected inside our magic chests. I've never heard anyone using them to dye things, but to use as safe storage inside magic chests.

Given the current forum interest in coal, thought I'd toss this out there to make a point that 90ql coal is possible to make and it is available--although the price is not cheap for such a premium result. I'm thinking 10s per 500 and 2 weeks delivery per 500 ordered. At this time I'll only accept orders up to 500 coal. All orders to be posted in this thread to count. My standard delivery charge of 1s per order for order value of less than 10s applies. Welcome to come to Port Onody near Freedom Market on Indy to pick up.

That doesn't add up, clearly Luttuosa asked for a deed stake and Willieman had one. Willieman could have traded it and then the deed would have been there with a minimal amount of delay. Instead he chose to put down the deed himself, taking away control from Luttuosa even though that wasn't necessary. Even after it was dropped he could have traded the deed for silver to compensate for whatever it cost him to put it down. Looks to me like he did drop the deed in order to take control as he had plenty of opportunities to ensure a deed would be put down without taking control away, yet in the end kept the deed and took control away.

As for the matter of "waiting" , we already had everything ready again, there was nobody in local that we didn't trust (them included, sadly) and it was a matter of another minute at most, as my mailbox has a 99courier cast and i was just coming back with the stake while they did it.

I wrote it, but for those who are going aking it over and over again, I will rewrite it, so I hope this time will be clear. I will be pleased if this JK guy whould bring to me on a freedom server the tome with one charge. As my friend explained to me, charges don't need to be used all together, so he can use 2 charges and leave mine in the tome and give the tome to me. I don't think I am asking a so complicate thing, becouse he came from chaos to celebration, so he can sail. If the point where we killed the goblin is the unique part of all the freedom servers where he know how to sail, I will meet him in celebration, not a problem. What I would do with the tome, I think it is my business, I don't think I need permissions if I want to use it, sell it or give it as a gift to a friend. My daddy don't tell me what to do with my things, why should someone other claim this right? A little more explanation of a couple of things I have read here. Yes, we sell and buy items, with rares and sometime supreme too if we are lucky; this don't mean that we know everything about the game. I went to a rift and a guy dropped a darksomething ring; until that moment I never have heard about this object, is this a crime? I don't think so. And for the people who find funny that we believed to the story of the pve JK leader, we don't know Chaos' mechanics; why should it be impossible? There are people that play here from more time than me and know less thing than me, but if they ask me something I don't answer them "lol, don't you know it? ahahahah". Even my nephew of 7 years old give answers like this.

nope...don't even try that. It's bad enough that it was painted as if those 2 were the bad guys all along. After it was made clear over and over again, that the point of this thread was being "purposefully" mislead, to obfuscate the situation, you "lost" your arguments, you can't just say "oh hey! just leave it at, we are both at fault for the bad things that were done" that's not how it went and you know that.

it is not about the loot. It is about the bad style.

Sounds like creed of the greedier, or did u had in your mind this will be public slaying? Also PVP and PVE needs to be separated, been saying this for 4 years now.

I don't know why you are all upset, they alteast made a post and all. If Willie wanted to steal it he could have had it killed the minute he dropped the deed. What I think really happen here was poor communication both parties English does not seem to be their first language (Willie and Lutt). There are countless unique slayings that happen in private and people don't even get a chance for potions heck I did one not even last week on Xanadu. Be grateful for what you got and move on. Next time you find a unique take all preventive measures yourself. If you were to make a name and shame thread for everyone that's allegedly stolen uniques this board would have hundreds of threads like this one. typical deed it or lose it situation.

This thread is just ridiculous. A bunch of people attacking the OP, arguing a side point (about tome) and completely failing to address a stolen unique. Somehow i feel most of them connected to the guilty party. Name and shame indeed, and the only one you guys are shaming here is yourself, so congrats... i guess.

This is an awesome idea that would help provide the increased survival for new players they have been aiming for

Nah I didn't, really, all I saw was that you thought a Tome was something that you can claim as a whole from a slaying. Which is laughable. Also, a JK PvE Leader, lol really? Come on, that's just sad and really funny.

Here's the version that allows you to see uncovered veins/through walls: LiveMap [Edited] (Google Drive) I'm probably going to get absolutely slaughtered for posting it, but honestly it's deleting 3 lines. Anyone with basic programming knowledge who can decompile and recompile a program can do this. I see no reason to leave the people who are unable to code "out of the loop" I guess you could say.

The reason why things like this happen is that all rolls lower than -100 and higher than 100 are discarded and rerolled, instead of capping the result. This is why someone with extremely high skills and item QLs still gets lousy results--for example, a miner with 99 skills and a QL95 supreme max-imbued pick only gets an average shard QL of ~85. A player with 99 smithing, 99 metallurgy, QL95 coal, and QL99 iron to work with would only wind up with an average output of ~QL83 steel. While it keeps the game from being flooded with max-QL resources, it sure is frustrating to get such lackluster returns after all that grinding.

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Farms with lots of animals to work your Animal Husbandry & farming skills. Altars of each god for prayers and sacrificing. A mine, Tar, Sand Pit, and Clay. The deed has been landscaped specifically to hold each type of wood in tree groves, available to all villagers for sprouting and cutting(Just remember to replant so it stays available). Hunting area near by, as well as coastal access & underground boat parking. The overall look of the deed is meant to be natural, and make each plot feel like its own little deed in the village. There is no work required to live on the deed. All that we ask is to help out your neighbors when they need, replenish/donate what you can to the public shops & be active. If you would like to help with deed upkeep, you are more than welcome to. Our vision for AE always has been to allow new players a safe place to dip their toes in and learn without the harsh world experience. We also love when long time players are returning and want a community, or even just a place to get back into the swing of things before deeding their own. If you decide to move on, or stop playing please just lets us know so your spot can be opened to another. If you plan to be gone longer than 30 days, but want to remain on the deed give us a heads up & it will be kept for you. Any player gone longer than 30 days with no notice will have anything left in their home donated back to the village, if there is anything of high value it will be kept in the storage unit for 60 days before being donated to the village. Because cleaning up left over carts, boats and locked items is a real pain it is appreciated that you keep this in mind. Amish Estates belongs to the NEXA Alliance. The alliance is mostly local, and very active. Many members of the alliance once started on the estates. Often there is jobs available to those looking to make a little silver while bringing up their skills. 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Pretty much what it says in the title, this would be nice. Even if it unlocked a bit later (30 foraging?)

We all know highways are protected from any unwanted modifications by the GM team. I'm suggesting that any canals, channels (dredged path in shallow water) or cave canals have the same protection. 2 or 3 tiles wide (paving or not to signal them - buoys anyone ?) and deep enough for all boats (-24 depth) as requirement. Why, because they usually involve a lot more time than any highway need, can be destroyed in a heartbeat and actually need the whole heritage process (which add more work for the GM team) to have the same level of protection highways currently have.

They could just mail the charge but i it would suprise me if they didnt use all 3 chargers already, whatever dropped

Oh, so because she found a valuable unique and got stolen and scammed in all the possible ways about it. It automatically becomes GREED if we legitemaly complain about being stripped off this things? really? So if someone steal something from you, and you want it back, or AT LEAST a decent piece of it back, you are greedy? Yeah, i have many rare and supremes and i skilled up my woodcutting more than everything, i worked hard on these things, i basically played nonstop for 6months only to achieve those things while i have less knowledge of hunting and pvp mechanics, being a "noob on these things" So what? what does this have to do with that? What are you even trying to prove? I'ts not like i've ever sold more than 10s of all those logs anyway. And get over it? really? That is you answer about members of your kingdom scamming my GF and trying to downplay and confuse everything? You can't really be thinking that if you assume to be a decent player. Edit : for the record, since you seem to care so much, not all the things i'm sellng on that Thread are mine. And while you've opened it, look at the date it was created, with the first answers being "Welcome to the wurm community"

That's why he deeded over a unique that someone else found... oh wait, no he didn't, JK guys did. So who's greedy again?

Please CoD to Wilca: ropetool, oakenwood, 30 ql, 100 coc, 5,9 s

sounds like the typical deed it or lose it situation. soz m8. u just got bested m8. I thought this was another whine and cry thread but now that i reread the OP I realize there is a lot more involved, I apologize for my comment.

All I see is one guy upset he didn't get all 3 charges for himself. I wasn't there. I don't normally go to hunts. I'm pretty sure I've never ever seen a slaying where one person got all 3 charges. Pretty silly thread. Edit: I was misinformed, and I apologize. I only read the chat logs given to me and they showed only the greed. Not the actual omissions to stealing.

Want to explain why this Isn't an option and what blockers are faced in stopping this opposed to the benefits?

Looked at the code... trees will not naturally spread to tiles within 2 tiles radius of another tree or 3 tile radius of oak or willow. Also interesting - they won't spread to tiles that contain any tracks, so more animals in an are should cause less tree density

Incorrect. Wurm hit 3k prem players in 2010(?). Wurm atm has 2.9k prem players. Just sayin

Wikid Keep Work in progress. Inside needs lots of work and decorating.

hello again we just open new view point for public on sand cliff check it out its awesome.