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Were aware of the servers being down. We dont however have an estimate time when they will be back up.

You're going way off topic here turning it into an "Epic is better than Chaos" argument. I understand Epic is good, but some of us like the slow skillgain. Also just because I live on Chaos does not mean I go out and hunt down noobs because I'm bored. 90% of my time is spent staying inside, in fact I've near avoided PvP since I stopped doing the HotA. It's not about killing people, it's mainly about hanging out with people I've played with for years since I started up on Wild. If you can't post anything contributing to the suggested idea then please don't post, it does nothing but clutter the thread.

I see the same comments over and over again... I paid for this, I paid for that... Yes but you weren't FORCED to pay it were you? In Wurm you don't HAVE to pay to play the game, you chose to pay to get further benefits of the game. I understand the issues you have with the fact of paying to play it and losing things... I know how you feel. I pay to play wurm too... I have lost over 30+ horses *not all in one go* on Wurm through crashes, bugs and grieving but I haven't gone on an all out rampage against the staff for it. I just accepted it, went off to look for my horses if they were still alive and did what I could to move on. Wurm is about surviving... just think of it as if it were a real life tragedy and when we can finally log back on do what you can to get back on track. I for one am on Celebration and I will personally offer anyone out there that is missing a horse (don't all come running) a horse or 2 when the server comes back up. Anything you need help with all you got to do is ask. I will even go hunting for your horse if it helps. On another note... I GM'd a game years ago that had a server issue with 1 guy working on it... took him a long time to fix because it was a hardware issue... not only that but I tried to help calm 10k people alone and the moment I posted anything I was swamped with hate mail and "fix this now or else" threats. No wonder GM's don't want to post updates in these situations lol. Thought i'd put up my thoughts. Besides i'd rather Rolf fix the issue than have to waste time posting what the issue is

Anyone had the thought that maybe he gets up, and there isn't just a magical switch he can flip to fix the servers? Maybe he has to troubleshoot? You can't expect them to be on within an hour when rolf is still the one handling them. Give the dude a break, let him grab a cup of coffee and dig in to fix the servers ... just please Rolf, don't SPILL the coffee. . .

When playing Wurm, 5 hours is like 5minutes. When in RL waiting for Wurm, 5minutes is like 5 hours.

Feathers

Actually, its a carebear (with droopy ears), he's even at the bottom of the rainbow!

"When you're strange, faces come out of the rain... when you're strange..." -- Jim Morrison

way to spoil the fun bwg, at least let me delude myself about the importance of my opinion

I think i've +1'd hitching posts about twice a month on average.

Hi, Alomst every MMO in existence has weekly downtime for maintenance sometimes lasting up to 9 hours. Whilst login server's crashing, world serve'rs crashing e.t.c. may be unscheduled and inconvenient Wurm has very little downtime compared to the majority of MMO's. This is not to say that it is wrong of you to feel like you deserve some sort of compensation but as a long term MMO player I've come to expect a little downtime now and again. Have fun. Be happy. Cheer's,

I do not have any official words to pass along however just to give everyone who is unaware an update, we normally encounter Rolf looking into any problems about this time of day for him. So IF there is a problem with the Wurm Online end of things he will likely be getting it sorted soon from the time of this post. Please try to be patient a little longer.

It is not people like you Shidoni that I directed that at. You are concerned and have skin in the game but are not throwing crazy comments 2 hours into the downtime. Several people in the thread seem to think there is a huge staff to deal with things like this. The names pop up in every thread that talks about the poor support in this game. 95% of the support in this game are volunteers who do an awesome job and get crapped on by 1% of the players. I can understand there are people who are in bad spots. My alt is not in a great spot but at worst I am dead and lost 2 decent horses. When the servers come back, hopefully I will still be on and I will log on, fix myself and then see what I can do to help others. Complainging about this is not going to fix anything.

A few more people having a little bit of power to either A) Fix the servers remotely or At least give us an idea of whats going on, and some kind of rough ETA, even if its just a "Rolf needs to wake up and have a look at this, we can't fix it. Minimum time to fix is ~4 hours, could be longer kthx." This simple amount of service would stop 95% of the bitching. At least if people knew the servers were going to be down for 4 hours at a minimum they wouldn't be spam trying to log back in to save their good horse.

Given how much patience is required to play Wurm I'm surprised at how impatient people get when it's down .

I'd vote for both of those if I could. Just a moment ago everyone in our alliance chat was complaining about lag and we all temporarily experienced lag up to 1000ms for at least 30 minutes. I wish I could say this is a rare occurance but quite frankly it's not. Wurm is a terribly laggy game and anything that involves near realtime reaction is not going to work whatsoever. Personally I think Wurm's fight system was at it's best prior to any of these new changes that added all sorts of random factors into it, Wurm is not a FPS and I don't think it should ever try to be one.

I'm sure this has been suggested before, but I don't think it's ever made it to its own thread. There needs to be a server strictly for hunting. Currently, the main Freedom cluster has hardly any hunting. I've traveled around everywhere on all four servers, and the hunting was great when they first opened. After people start breeding and collecting aggressive such as hell horses, the hunting has gone down. What hunting there is, Spirit Templars usually kill them. What I propose is a strictly hunting only server East of Independence, sailable by boat. Building, breeding, and penning of animals would not be allowed. There would be no deeds, guard towers, or Spirit Templars. The server should remain PvP-free simply for the fact that I know that Freedom players would enjoy hunting on it as well. After such a server would be implemented, it should solve a lot of problems for people who can't find decent hunting to get their Fighting and Weapon skills up. It would also add value to larger boats as you could transport a mass quantity of meats, hides, and pelts. It would open up a new trade window for people who want to supply bulk meats and other animal produce, which is only a GOOD thing for the economy. The size of such a server shouldn't be too big, perhaps GV sized 1024, or 2048. Items can be crossed between the servers, and perhaps some unique, non-game breaking items could be found on the server for hunters to collect. The animals would be more difficult, and would be a lot more prominent. Horses would be abundant so you could bring some gear to ride on them with. A few ideas that could be implemented along with this server would include: Sleeping Bag (Non-Repairable) - Cloth Tailoring Implemented! 2 Furs 2 Sheets 10 Strings of Cloth --- Offers 1/3 Sleep Bonus compared to a bed --- 5 Minute logout timer Tents (Non-Repairable) - Leatherworking Implemented! 5 Shafts 4 Leather (3kg each) 10 Wires 2 Sleeping Bags --- Offers 1/2 Sleep Bonus compared to a bed --- 5 Minute logout timer Ivory Ivory has a number of functions, but mostly decorational, which wouldn't be game breaking at all. What could be made from Ivory includes Horned Helmets, Ivory Musical Horns, Drinking Horns, and other decorational Ivory items. Unique Respawns Uniques could occasionally respawn here with no messages. This means that each new server that is added wouldn't be plagued with people who only join the server to kill the uniques. The uniques that spawn from new servers would randomly spawn here every couple of weeks after the newest servers are added. Stronger Animals This server could showcase animals far stronger than the typical animals on the other servers. Unique creatures such as the God's animals (Avatars) could respawn here, aggressive, and perhaps would drop loot such as 50-60QL weaponry (not high QL, but mostly trophy material). A server like this could be used to test stronger animals before implemented to mainstream servers, and perhaps one day Rolf could test smarter animal AI, such as troll and goblin outposts, or even NPC strongholds. Item Fixes Branches - Make Kindling out of them Implemented! I don't really see a downside to this, and a server such as this would have the least strain out of any other server as there would be no buildings or deeds. I'd like to see people's thoughts on an idea such as this.

rope on a shaft + 1 shaft makes a hitching post, plant on a tile and hitch your animal to it so it doesn't run off.

Is there a real reason why only Horde of the Summoned can be followers of Libila? After being a mag priest for a long time, I've started wondering why even bother, when you could make an alt there (HOTS) or just convert to hots and still be part of your real kingdom by being in the same alliance. Obviously you would still get attacked by kingdom guards which would make it difficult to really participate in your kingdoms events. So why are Libila priests so over powered and not divided into different gods. I think there should be a chance of being in peace with an other PMK so there could be a hots based PMK attached to a White Light kingdom based one.. Also when Wild was made part of the freedom isles and non pvp, we all got a /transfer to chance religion (because hots needed to have a chance to convert to white light gods, as hots was removed). So now when HOTS and Black Light is back, why isn't there an option to /transfer back to Libila? Updated.

At the moment, we can only extend a deed either N/S or E/W. This is a major problem as it limits the town size (due to unwanted land, or nearby deeds). If it is possible to extend only N or E or S or W, it will benefit lots of players and the financial aspect of Wurm as people are more willing to pay to make necessary adjustments to their deed.

Priests located on the Chaos server may now use a free faith transfer to Libila using /transfer. View the tumblr article

This cracks me up, non stop. Enjoy [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kRZSny-438

Rather than dumbing the events down in magnitude I think they should be more interactive rather than having a relatively instant and uncontrollable end game. Instead have a build up time on the gods' attacks, mark terrain where they're going to happen, and in the case of terrain shaping events that come in multiples space them out instead of having them all occur at once. After the game finishes and the winning god starts doing their thing spawn a number of missions for the servers being affected to help protect their land in a number of ways such as diverting the area affected, reducing the magnitude, or completely eliminating some of the locations to be terraformed. The difficulty of the missions could scale based on the end strength of the gods doing the protection. This way we can still have epic outcomes but have some degree over the control of the damage done.

So you really need a GM to post something we already all know, that the servers are Down or Can't be connected to ( could be a network problem with the host or a server issue but a GM wouldn't know which ), and that we need to wait for Rolf to find out what the problem is and fix it , and as it's still only 6am in Sweden, it could be a while before it gets back up again ? Not really sure how that would actually change anything tbh, people would still be on here posting the same things in the thread they already have done. At the end of the day, i always assume that if there is no info when the servers drop it means that Rolf doesn't yet know what caused it / is still trying to get it fixed. As i've already said, yes its frustrating , yes it could be better, but at the end of the day any company has to work within a budget and being an indie MMO this game doesn't have tons of money , and Rolf himself has even said in the latest Q & A it only makes a tiny profit because everything else goes back into the business which is letting him slowly increase his Staff size.

And just letting it go is? People pay for this. You give your right to excuses up when you take peoples money imo

From my understanding of the IRC, one of the dev's was touching a hamster inappropriately... Servers walked in on them and went into shock. Hamster Ran one direction, servers ran another.. the dev though.. nobody knows what happened to him. Apparently the hamsters didn't make it far before getting a severe wound, which the doctor couldn't aid, and has died. Everything else is up in the air.

Really, a simple amount of service would fix 95% of the bitching? The server has been down less than an hour and look how much bitching has already occured. I suppose you can just reboot the servers and get them running again in 10-15 minutes, and risk them going down for same thing again. Or give the team some time to find out and troubleshoot the problem. There are only a couple of server people on the team, they can be working on the problem or they can be wasting their time answering stupid questions on the forum.

Dam id take a simple solution.......dont unhitch my dam horses when the server goes down

Really ? I'm quite certain that Rolf doesn't see it as a joke and that he takes every server crash / lockup very seriously indeed. It is an indie game and they do not have the funds to pay for a 24/7 server management team so we need ot have a little patience and allow Rolf to wake up ( it is only 5am in Sweden ), have a coffee then make his way to the office where he can start to work on WHAT went wrong then hopefully fix it before bringing the servers back up ( if possible ). Now, i'm not saying it doesn't get annoying at times having to wait, especially when its 4am ( for me ) and your unable to sleep for what-ever reason. Could it be handled better , sure it could , but then , nothing in life is perfect sadly or we would all be living in a Utopian dream. Also, in general the Wurm uptime on it's servers is pretty fantastic as far as i'm concerned, especially when you consider how finnicky computer technology is when something goes wrong. So, relax folks, it will get fixed even if it takes a while.

Hello, We conducted an investigation into the mechanics of taking HoTA statues recently and found them to be in proper working order. Older statues planted before the planting update a while back could be taken while new statues after the update are not takeable once planted. These older statues are fair game and were taken by accepted legal method during a raid. So if you have older statues planted before the respective update you should replant them and secure them better. Thank you, Enki (Asst. Head Game Master)

Will we get /transfers back to Lib, rolf? The Lib priests were forced out of priesthood, should only be fair to let them convert back. Nadroj also has a good point - Is there any reason why the BL was moved from its original position?

No! Roads should not be made more work intensive to create! If they are not wanted they can easily be destroyed. I see no justification to increasing the workload to create roads. =Ayes=

You can do that by making the road, then tearing it up, then making it again. That way you don't need to make life harder for everyone else Also brick quantities will never make sense. You want to put over a hundred bricks into a single wall? It's a case where convenience and playability beats logical name-to-picture matching imo.

Stone altars can be moved, so I don't see why wooden and metal altars can't be also. At the very least, let us move them within the same tile (stick to center would work, but I still can't understand why not just let us move them everywhere we want)

'Trial' can mean many things. The limitation isn't always time. You aren't paying for 'extra'. You're paying for full functionality. What does or does not constitute 'free' in your mind is irrelevant. Rolf operates this game by trading a service for money. You pay for services rendered. There is a reasonable expectation placed on that transaction. Myself and others whom I agree with aren't saying 'get it back on now', we're saying 'can this please stop happening'. I don't think that's an unreasonable request. If we're not supposed to bring it up when it happens, when should we?

Would say that I know a few MMOs that whatever they have or not have 24/7 support.. they took hours to bring the server back up. Also the more successful minecraft also unable to quickly fix theirs login server when it is down.. Who are we to assume it is something on the devs' end that gone wrong? Sometimes it could be ISP.. or the server hosting.. or rats.. Sorry to hear about the possible deaths and horses lost.. I would grief a LOT upon my 5 speed almost 10s worth in equip horse if it gone lost... Wurm is not the only game I know I will die if server down while I'm in middle of fight though >.< .. Maybe we can all instead gather in less anger and vote up suggestion for no horses unhitch on dc/server down. Not sure there is a way to fix the die when disconnect in middle of fight cause it is there to prevent pvp and pve abuses.

No its not, made you look. Yes yes... I know.... you guys hate me for it

No one forces me to live where I do but I still expect to have a roof every day. And I don't rage about my losses, but I am allowed to have an issue with their recurrence. Anyone who knows me on Deli knows I'm quick to offer horses, supplies and aid to anyone I can, regardless of how they incurred their losses. And I love that we have a community like that in Wurm. At the end of the day, there is more I enjoy about Wurm than the things that frustrate me, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be fixed, or that I lose my right to voice my displeasure. I don't think people should be attacking, berating or throwing about ultimatums at staff, but I can't really bring myself to shrug and skip away merrily each time it happens.

It is currently 05:38 in the morning in Sweden.... so......... ... allow time for ..... Alarm clock to go off at 06:30 ... morning routine, (bathroom, breakfast) ... get hamsters to warm up car and shovel snow off driveway to get car to the street, ... read newspaper in car while hamsters deal with rush hour traffic, ... get to work around 07:50ish ... at 08:00 enter off, find extension the night janitor tripped over ... plug servers back in, reboot Wurm.. Food for thought!..

I bet you the servers are up its just the login server down

We don't care about your Epic discussions in a thread about the progression of Chaos. Please refrain from posting anymore trash from that cluster here, thanks. On a good note, I'm glad to see the Bone Altar respawned, but as many others have questioned already, will we be allowed to /transfer to Libila?

I though Tich is currently making some tile slope modifier according to the recent QA...? Edit: found the log so here is it.. [21:06] <&Rolf> Tich you've been meddling with teerraforming haven't you? [21:06] <@Wossoo> So that in future we wont have to rely on you waking up? [21:06] <&Rolf> not initially [21:07] <&Rolf> setting employees on 24/7 call is both expensive and demoralizing [21:07] <&Rolf> I can do it as owner [21:07] <&Rolf> but we really need to be able to hand it over to professionals [21:08] <&Rolf> which is equally expensive but not as demoralizing [21:08] <%Tich> yes rolf, added a couple of command that are available on test server [21:08] <%Tich> like flatten on tile borders and a level for tiles

Beyond the uniques and initial land rushing, I still don't see the point of the separation. If anyone started playing a month or more before the newer servers opened, they had to deal with the "omg, 90+ skill level" vets too. Uniques have been penned and/or are actively being controlled, land rush is over and the vets who jumped over are starting to ask to be able to come back. So let 'em. Just start the evaluation/voting/whatever black magic/hoodoo needed to link them already so we can move on from the "never link them or I'll cry" threads, to the "now that they're linked I'll cry" threads... at least it would be a different thread...

Because epic people dont want chaos to steal their players so they post all sorts of crap in a thread related to chaos.

Pancakes.

I understand where the OP is coming from and we certainly didn't ask for any of these things added to chaos. But that said, does it really matter? Are these things harming our pvp experience of lessening it? Are these things making the game less fun or the server less active? No they are not. So why not just leave them be if Rolf has taken it upon himself to make a few extra additions to Chaos. I said many times over the last year while Chaos was void of pvp and raiding that i always felt like 90% of the code Rolf put together for Epic would have worked absolutely fine on Chaos so the only reason for the new cluster was to give people a new playground for their fresh zero skilled accounts. It seems like he has begun to agree with that sentiment and i personally don't see a problem with that. As i said, it's not harming our game experience from what I see. it's just another thing on the server. I do, however, wish we could either be rid of the damned event messages about nogumps or whatever spawning unless Rolf wants to make those creatures actually spawn there lol. But once again it's hardly harming peoples game experience, just a mild annoyance in event every now and then which gives false info to players.

No one asked for the Epic stuff on Chaos. You are unlikely to find a single thread in any of the "FIX WILD !!!!!1111" topic posts of anyone asking for anything other than raiding coming back. Personally, I don't really care. Chaos gets to the point where I don't like what is going with Epic stuff here, I'll leave. That being said, we are all on Chaos (Wild) for a different play experience versus Epic. I had assumed that Chaos was to be a more stripped down experience, void of what some of us old farts call "novelties" like missions, battle camps, etc.. You know, a simple sit down and slog it out pvp and raid server. People just wanted Old Wild back. The fact there's been no mention at all that this Epic stuff coming here was part and parcel to simply getting raiding back, not a carbon copy of Epic slammed upon us. In that regard I do see the point the OP has made. I have no vested interest in any of this, but I can certainly see where the OP is coming from. I refrained from voting because I am entirely neutral on the matter. It's like taking your car in to Jiffy Lube for an oil change, going for a coffee and coming back and it's painted bright pink with unicorn murals all over it, sort of a "well, that's nice, but no one mentioned nor asked for this" type of moment. A CM or any other staff can express his opinions like any other player. Volunteering ones time to help the playerbase as a staff member does not void you of the right to express your opinions. A CM is a paying player just like anyone else.

I like this idea, and I often think that I would have a larger deed if I could expand in just one direction. In effect, expanding a coastal village, or a village near the top or bottom of a cliff, costs double, as you are paying for tiles that you cannot feasibly use. Counter-suggestions to the tune of "just use precognition or get used to hemorrhaging money to move your token around a little" are ridiculous, particularly when disbanding and refounding a village voids any of the bonuses granted from a deed's long life. Village growth is organic, and people often make use of land in unexpected ways and shapes and sizes; a more robust deed sizing and placement system would be a step forward.

Dissapointed with the new cheese graphic